Jesus save us from your people.

They ain't MY people.

Thanks for the RS lesson.

...look, this isn't easy. Parents are torn between vaccines and illness. What would you do???..........OK, give the kid the damn shot.

http://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-content/uploads/vaccines-kill.jpg

I'm not sure what the intent of your post is, but 100 years ago 80% of children made it to age 18. Now the number is over 99%. Smallpox, polio, mumps and measles ravaged childhood, killing and maiming many children. Smallpox is now a historical relic. Polio once made kids to swim in pools every summer is now a rarity. Mumps and measles should be eliminated, but antivaxers are allowing it to threaten children. Mumps and measles can cause blindness and can lead pregnant women to miscarry.

Vaccines are life savers, not poisons. The biggest poison is the myth that these miracles that have extended our lifespans are somehow nefarious threats to children.

but I kept thinking, "If the vaccine made me feel this crummy, imagine how the REAL FLU would make me feel. Maybe even dead."

FAMILY NUDITY in a chaste setting.

separate nudity from sexual thoughts, arousal.

simple.

Actually...though it makes me a bit uncomfortable to think about applying this to my own family, the simplicity of this idea just might make it brilliant.

Really awkward (for me), but brilliant.

Nah. I don't think so.

Titillating is titillating--no matter how many naked bodies you've seen at home.

a bit of desensitization sometimes occurs; often, a woman with a bikini or other provocative clothing is more 'sexual', more inticing than a nude woman; Much has to do with Context.



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The porn industry would be a lot smaller if religion didn't condition people to want it.

Exactly NAILED IT; the 'Forbidden Fruit' syndrome

Exactly. There's a reason Utah has the highest rate of porn use.

To help parents prevent their children from becoming apostates, here are ways to immunize kids against apostasy.
1. Don’t underestimate a child’s curiosity.
2. Protect kids from questioning Mormonism as much as possible. Put blocks on sites that kids might be able to access.
3. Use conversation starters. For example, while looking at family pictures engage the child by saying that there are other people on the Internet or in books and magazines that show people questioning Mormonism or doing inappropriate things.
4. Define what apostasy is and how it makes a child feel. Ask the child how they felt when subjected to apostasy. Explain what happens to the brain when it sees apostasy.
5. Explain that apostasy can become an addiction.
6. Keep the feeling part of the brain in charge. So when a child engages a lot with the thinking brain, it can lead to risky behavior. It’s important to intentionally engage the irrational brain.
7. Use an ice cream truck to teach about addiction. A child who keeps eating ice cream will want it more and more. Soon a child must have ice cream and will hear the ice cream truck coming. The desire for the ice cream will be strong and the child will want more and more. Apostasy is similar.
8. Don’t freak out if a child has been looking at sites promoting apostasy. Be SMART. Stay calm. Make a plan. Assist the child to understand their feelings and regularly check in and train the entire family.
9. Make a safe place to talk about dangerous beliefs.

Love this!

It is so frustrating to see people freak about non-problems like porn while real problems like inequality and global warming threaten our society.

If porn vanished from the world, it would not solve anything. If women never bared their shoulders, it would not solve anything. Better sex ed and responsible contraception would solve a lot of the problems these prudes are trying to fix.

1 Way to Immunize Elder's Quorum Members from Pornography.

1. Poke out their eyeballs with hot irons.

thank you for that link Itz

Thank gawd it was the bishop's kid who showed me my first Playboy.

The one with Marilyn even.

Too late to immunize me after that.

in the marilyn monroe days of Playboy....weren't the genitals (if shown, not hidden) airbrushed out?

Hey! Adam & Eve were Naked & un-ashamed, so were Marge & Homer (at least 1 episode)... Good Enough for Them, Good Enough for the rest of us!

1. have a healthy view of nudity and the male and female bodies
2. have a happy and active sex life
3. talk about sex as a natural course of events from the start
4. talk about sexual boundaries
5. RESPECT THEIR SEXUAL boundaries by not delving into their sexual explorations so much
6. it aint softcore that's the problem.
7. take away the fear shame and moralizing
8. there is some shit that can burn their eyes regarding violence and sex....address that. why so fixated on sex? it's the violence and coercive nonconsenting etc that's the problem
9 & 10......it's not that big of a deal. I assume they were born with a brain and a conscience!

That's too progressive! I like the list. Thanks for posting.

I'm tired, or I would do this: Can somebody please list ten ways to immunize kids against religion?

The answer to the temptations of both pornography and religion:

They're both boring and depressing.

"Child, it's time that you knew the truth. Those things that you saw are called pornography. Those sexual things that you saw, all the naked people, all the strange touching, those things are exactly what Joseph Smith did to underage girls like you, and to married women, and - well - to just about any woman that he could get his hands on.

So, Next time you are in church and hearing about Joseph Smith, imagine him naked in one of those pornographic movies with a young girl who looks just like you.

"That's the real truth. If you could go back in time, that's what Mormon history would truly look like - a porn movie."

The DN article didn't touch on "family life", which used to be important, before (modern) Mormonism came along.

Elder Berry left out # ten, above, from the DN article:
10. Make a safe place to talk about dangerous things. [Home should be safe enough. Dangerous? Life! Break it down. Simple.]

The list provided by lightenup is right along the lines I was thinking as I read the article: why not create a loving, living, open, happy, healthy, accepting, honest home? Dogma and Stigma and Shame and Guilt and Finger Pointing and Superiority-Complexes and Blame and Lying and Hiding and Shunning and Punishment and Separation do not HELP!

Hopefully slskipper's upcoming list of ways to keep from getting sick (and dying, and spreading the disease) from religion will save at least a few dear souls.



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