There was a fad that started in the 70's where morgbots would "challenge" each other to do things. Nothing was a request, or idea worth considering - it had to be a challenge. To read the scriptures. To hold family home evening. To not masturbate. Etc. I've been out well over 20 years now but for some reason that memory popped up and I'm curious. Do they still go around "challenging" all the time?

I heard it occasionally in the last decade, but not as often and not as dramatically as it used to be thrown around.
My least favorite challenge was the stupid kind that came from a hotshot teenager who obviously knew nothing but wanted to act spiritually mighty by mimicking his elders.
I also hated it when the trite "challenge" was followed up with a teary "I promise you that..." (fill in the blank). That was stupid, too.

Oh, ja, I'd forgotten about the promises that were given for a "challenge" accepted and accomplished. My mission in late 70s was nothing but a giant challenge fest. Too bad no one challenged me to a duel as I was an intercollegiate fencer at the time.

Didn't mittens use the word "challenge" when he asked rick perry to make a 10k bet during the GOP clown car debate?

Oh, Geez. Bad memory I almost had stifled.
You're right. He did.

Ah, this finally makes sense. I had a TBM boss say this to me once.

There's presently a challenge in my old ward RS, to read the Book of Mormon by Feb 1, or something like that. You'd think they could come up with something a little more exciting and creative than that.

Yes! Mostly missionaries do this, but there are still many zealous sunday school teachers who use the challenge/promise format

Yep,a Missionary sister would challenge me at the end of every lesson to at first just pray, I'd never done it since I was about 8, and then to pray the Book of Mormon was true. Bless em.
It did strike me as an unusual phrase and I did wonder why she chose such a word, that explains it.
Actual I am a little disappointed I thought it was a nice original way of phrasing the request. Shame.

Original? no... Missionaries are trained specifically in the MTC and in meetings to use that phrasing. they ALL do it. Or are "supposed" to



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Does this remind anyone else of kids "daring" each other to manipulate others into doing otherwise stupid/dangerous things?

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> Does this remind anyone else of kids "daring" each
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Absolutely. That practice wreaked havoc with my emotionally unstable MORmON convert male parent. Thankfully LDS Inc only wanted MORmON parents to send their kids on full time missions instead of nailing them to a cross. My male parent would have loved to show up Abraham and / or emulate Elohim. Sacrificing a child (somebody else) would have been a small price to pay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBQnjVX_gco

Reminds me of the Brish woman on the handcart company who seemed pleased that her son died on her badly organised and foolish trek to Utah. You know the poor persecuted hand cart martyrs. she considered it a small price to pay. I doubt he agreed.

" I have come to learn that no sacrifice is too great for a faithful (faithFOOL) Latter day Saint"

Gordon B.S. Hinckley

After all, forcing your child to make the ultimate sacrifice is not the same as having to make it yourself..... when a person is MORmON.

last line of paragraph 11

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1985/10/let-us-move-this-work-forward?lang=eng

Sounds inspiring, until a person really thinks about it and about what LDS Inc really does.

It's another cult mind-control trick. The missionaries will "challenge " the invistigator to find out if the BoM is true, etc. The implication here is that if you don't discover that the BoM is true, you have failed the challenge. You are a failure. Very few people feel good about failing. That's how cults control people.

I did point out the circular logic in it, it was clear to me first you had to want to believe and if you didn't it was your fault for not being sincere.
I think the response was along the lines of try again until you do it right. while they were concerned by what I said, there was a few troubled looks, they mishies just ploughed on regardless.

It was a favorite theme of Paul H. Dunn,that paragon of insight into the human condition.

I challenge you to take another shot of tequila

to make it a double.

We REALLY need a "like" button. ^^^^

Missionaries invite themselves around every so often and usually "challenge" us to read/pray/something. Having been out of the church many years I laughed when a lady giving me a DoTerra sales pitch "challenged" me to do something. Is that how they suck Mormons into that crap?

Maybe we should start "challenging" missionaries and other Mormons to read the essays and the CES letter. Turn their tactics back on them and see how they like it.