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Posted by: moronee ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 11:25AM
In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

I'm trying to reconcile this with the LDS pre-existence story.

Did the bad guys argue that obedience should be necessary for salvation but be voluntary or did they argue that Satan could and should force us to be obedient?

If the latter...what was Jesus' argument exactly?

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 03:59PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Both sides of the War in Heaven wanted the same thing: obedience. The point of difference was only methodology. Elohim and Jesus favored extortion.

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 04:07PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

"Satan could and should force us to be obedient" - there you go. AND you have nailed who is in charge of the CULT.

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Posted by: azsteve ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 09:49PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Obedience is the first law of slavery.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: February 07, 2015 01:04PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Well said, Sparticus.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 09:51PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Like I've stated before...I suck at obeying...and why religion ain't for this cowboy.

Ron Burr

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Posted by: iamanevermormon ( )
Date: February 07, 2015 12:33AM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Likewise

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Posted by: The StalkerDog™ ( )
Date: February 07, 2015 12:46AM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

My heroes have always been cowboys...

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: February 06, 2015 11:37PM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

Obedience is for ants, and I'm an uncle.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2015 01:13PM by donbagley.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 07, 2015 12:43AM
Re: In the Mormon Church obedience is paramount.

? this is 'news'? show me.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: February 07, 2015 12:51AM
Sometimes, you have to obey, or there are consequences.

You don't tell a firefighter, "It's YOUR job to put out the fire. I'm NOT leaving the building! This is the SUPERBOWL, fer Crissakes!"

You don't tell a cop, "No, I WON'T hang around just because I happened to see that accident. There are other witnesses, talk to THEM!"

However, I've never bought into obedience just because "somebody said so." I didn't buy it as a kid, and I don't buy it now. People on power trips start making up their own, arbitrary rules, and that's where I draw the line.

If you are not welcome in what's supposed to be God's house because you have tattoos, several earrings, or flip-flops (or wearing trousers if you are female), that's small-minded and petty.

I don't care for the implication that God is small-minded and petty.

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