An interesting study was reported yesterday.
http://smithsonianscience.org/2015/02/corn-entered-southwest-u-s-first-along-highland-route-dna-study-shows/

Here is a link to the journal of science study.
http://www.nature.com/articles/nplants20143

Maize was in the Southwestern United States about 4,000 years ago. For the Book of Mormon, that means Lehi's people had nothing to do with spreading it out of Mesoamerica. And in the article, it says "Because the archaeological record holds no evidence of agricultural societies moving north out of Mexico to the Southwest United States, we assume maize came into the Southwest simply by being passed on from groups in Mexico to people—hunter-gatherers—who were already living in the Southwest United States."

So for the Mormons who claim that Mesoamerica was Book of Mormon lands, sorry but how did the people get into the United States for Joseph Smith to have revelation that American Indians were Lamanites?

What do you call a cornfield labyrinth?

A maize.

donbagley Wrote:
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> What do you call a cornfield labyrinth?
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> A maize.


First genuinely delighted smile of the day...

Thank you, Don!!!

:D

I stand all aMAIZEd
At the love Jesus gives me
Oh, it is aMAIZing
Amaizing indeed.

Corny right? But, but?? What else could it be?

Ugh. There is a special place in outer darkness for people who pun like you do.


:)

"Corn" is a generic term used for all grain. Only in the US is the term "corn" strictly identified with maize.

My favorite college story of all time centers around this very issue. And yes, I am a nerd.

You've got a definite "wannabe" aroma...

Your use of the word "corn" as a generic term for all grains is archaic; don't tell the apologists, but that was already the case in Joseph Smith's day.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=corn

My favorite story about how words change means involves the word "nice" which entered the lexcion around the 14th Centuty. Coming from French, it orginally meant "foolish or sexually wanton."

(Look it up in the OED if you doubt me)

So there was a time when nice girls did.

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/96522/why-does-corn-mean-maize-in-american-english

>I keep hearing "corn" as a synonym of "maize". This is widely popularized worldwide by popcorn. However, this is American English! In British English, "corn" can mean any type of "grain", especially "wheat", as in the Corn Laws. Why does "corn" mean "maize" in American English? Is there a historical reason to account for this change of meaning?

Joseph Smith, or whoever wrote the BOM, was writing in "American English."



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My college story deals with the Corn Laws. I still laugh thinking about it.

Yes, when performing Shakespeare, lines with the word "nice" in them are usually delivered in a particular way, to let today's audiences know there's a wink wink nudge nudge going on...

I don't recall what William S. had to say about "corn" though.

OMG The next thing we will hear is that the BoM is fiction!

Cheech and Chong:

I like the way you put corn in it to texturize it!

Thanks for these links. More reading to look into ... ;-)

...as if we needed another reason to realize that the BoM is total and unadulterated BS.

The DNA essay at LDS.org leaves out many things. Maize DNA studies can now be added to the list of omitted topics.

Let he who has ears hear.

**groan** lol

Brilliantly put, Exdrymo. Love it.

Such effort and work proving disproving a book of fiction was made up not made up by the mind of a man.

It is a fact the amazing God of the a mormons does not eat maize or corn but amazingly loves wheat. Eating cracked wheat is like playing basketball on carpet. Both are stupid. Grits is the food of the gods. Add bacon, salt, pepper and butter to Grits and you have an amazing meal. Lots of sugar and cream added to grits is also amazing.

Oatmeal - amazing that it is still better than cracked wheat.



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Dammit, themaster, now I want biscuits and gravy for breakfast!

Unlike the 3 Nephites, who prefer chicken and waffles....

The sweet corn we now have came from Indians in or around Pennsylvania. During the Revolution, George Washington ordered Richard Bagnell to destroy the Indian maize crop so the British could not get it. Bagnell discovered that the corn was different and kept seeds which he took back to Massachusetts - our present sweet corn. He obviously did not fully obey the orders. Think of the loss if he had obeyed.

P.S. I am a descendant - and even got the first name for that reason. But my older brother has the seat in the Society of the Cincinatti.

Well I know OP Rockwell loved corn.

He always kept some with him, in a jug.

Not a problem. The origins of maize are irrelevant. Lehi brought over wheat.

The origin of maize might be irrelevant, but it's spread out of Mesoamerica is crucial. For apologists who claim that Book of Mormon lands were in Mesoamerica, they cannot use the spread of maize as evidence that descendants of Lehi migrated out of Book of Mormon lands into the United States to become the "literal descendants of Abraham".

Eh, my snark was meant as a typical mopologist "explanation" and prompt the question of why there was no wheat in the Americas before European contact. The bom is so fouled up on so many points.