What's in the ensign this month? I list some of the lovely passages for you enlightenment today (depression on every page if you ask me).... yikes!

" Another painful affliction is singleness, those who suffer this circumstance should remember that our Savior experienced this, and offers strength to bear this..." (pg 9) (depressing isn't it?)

"Some of you are denied the blessing of marriage for reasons including lack of prospects, gay attraction, handicaps, fears, divorced... Even so, everyone can contribute to the unfolding of the divine plan of the "Family" in each generation." (p7) (talk about depressing, don't the singles feel unworthy enough in the perfect church without driving the nail in further? guess not)

"Everyone, no matter their marital circumstance or number of kids can defend the family proc." (p7) (how and why? should singles, gays and others included, devote themselves to being "the Alice" for time and all eternity?)

"Happiness in marriage and parenthood can exceed a thousand times any other happiness." (faust pg 20) (Wow! all I can say is that is a very invalidating and degrading comment to the fulfillment diverse humans can find in life)

Lastly Oaks gives a little parable on what it's like to be single in a married church. He says it's like joining a star gazing club where everyone has jackets. You can't find one, but everyone is talking about how nice the jackets are and your freezing your A$$ off and are too dim to leave, bla bla bla...

But he never says go find another club? How do other singles/divorced/gays put up with this? Waiting to die is a terrible resignation to give the customer, isn't it?

Oh ugh.

"marriage and parenthood can exceed a thousand times any other happiness"

So getting back to you people who are being denied the blessing of marriage, it's not like you're missing out on all that much.

So exactly how did they quantify how much happier they are? Maybe married people are only 995x happier.

But seriously. I've seen real studies about marriage on happiness. And although HAPPILY married people are usually happier than singles, single women are happier than unhappily married women.

Marriage is good when it's good. But really don't see that all that often. I've seen a lot of unhappily married couples, and they just snipe at each other constantly. Exception: Most exmo couples that I know seem pretty happy, if they make it past the rocky transition stage out of the church.



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I just want to comment that I married in my later 20s. It was really hard to have it constantly thrown in my face that I was missing out on marriage, and that that was supposed to be my most important accomplishment in life. But that it was okay, because I'd have an opportunity in the next life (to be assigned as someone's 2nd wife or something).

I wonder if the single men in the church have felt that same disappointment and loss. I know they get called "a menace to society". But I don't think they feel the sense of rejection. Any guys who married late have something to say about this? My husband was over 30 when we married, but I don't remember him talking about it as being painful or feeling like a reject. Maybe for the guys it was more like a sin of omission to still be single.

The stupid thing about the LDS church and marriage, it they try and rush people into it, instead of encouraging people to wait for the right partner.

AMEN, Sister Ima.

I think males feel the same about singleness that females do. Human emotion is the same, the genders aren't that different. Mormonism teaches that men dominate and have so much power, but the modern world isn't like what's presented in the momo world. Males may try to conceal disappointment more, pretend to be tougher.

The recipe for Mormon success.

Find any worthy single you can find to marry you so you can join the star gazing club and get the member's only gear.

Having children you may not even want.

When your spouse starts up their porn addiction because your marriage wasn't based upon much sexual attraction make their life a living hell until they get back in line or just try to block it.

Basically create a codependent relationship with another human being of the other gender that makes you and them dependent on Mormonism and you will have happiness and a great life gazing at stars and never enjoying life on earth much but Pintrest and Facebook the hell out of how happy you are with lots of quotes from general authorities.

right on. Interesting though that there is no logical continuation of the parable. Like the single smarted up and drove home, or found another club?

There can't be. There is nothing for single Mormons.

poopstone Wrote:
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> > "Happiness in marriage and parenthood can exceed a
> thousand times any other happiness." (faust pg 20)

That hardly seems physically possible. Wouldn't your heart burst and your head explode from so much joy? I can just imagine parents bursting asunder in the joy of their posterity.

"In local news four women in the Cedar Hills area, each the mother of five sweet boys under the age of six, died suddenly. The cause of death was determined to be joy, 1000 times as strong as any other joy, this multiplied by five was just too much for them."

damn. Guess I can never be happy.

I'm afflicted with singleness. Turns out, I still felt lonely even when I believed Jesus was there for me. Surprisingly, Jesus' love and atonement weren't as helpful to me as a hand to hold would be in curing it.

and gays are allowed the blessings of marriage now. ; )

Lucyfer and her husband. They used to report monthly on the new articles in the Ensign.

What the OP has posted makes me irritated. Sometimes I shouldn't read these things.

I remember them!

Yesterday I was missing Brian The Christ. Maybe RfM doesn't have as many colorful folks as it did in the past.

It's better to have shingles than to be one of the Mormon singles.

The only upside Oaks is promising the singles is that they can still participate in building the kingdom for the marrieds and defending the bigoted family proclamation for the marrieds, and it goes without saying they can still reap all the benefits of paying tithing which is blessings "someday," but not as much as the marrieds get.

What a deal!

Meanwhile singles all around the world are having fantastic fulfilled lives in spite of not having a special Mormon jacket.

blueorchid Wrote:
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> Meanwhile singles all around the world are having
> fantastic fulfilled lives in spite of not having a
> special Mormon jacket.

It is a straight jacket.

Or a strait jacket.

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way...

I was thinking of not this jacket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtFzuGeCfkc

a marriage / (GASP)partnership can ONLY be happy when both are living the LDS 'gospel' at 110%


No R rated movies

No shopping on Sunday

3 hours / week of Boring meetings.

Sending 10% to SL, Never having an idea or thought of what happens with it.

Leaders that literally Don't Give A Damn out individuals, either in their Club or Not.

No Coffee or tea, either Hot or Not!

All are indoctrinated, Adults but Especially Children!
FOLLOW THE PROPHET!!!! Heil Monson!!!!!!

It never occurs to the old farts that many single or partnered people live full and happy lives outside the narrow confines of LDS marriage. Personally, Mormonism has done more to fuck up my temple marriage than it has helped.

If I can find a copy of the Proclamation, I will burn it as a sign of support of all the people Mormonism has marginalized by its hateful policies and "revelations." The Boner.

So marriage and family are the greatest joy.

So young males are leaving the fold in record numbers leaving a
LOT of Mormon young women without marriage prospects.

So wouldn't the decent thing to do be to tell them to not limit
their husband prospects to Mormon guys? Wouldn't holding up the
joy of marriage and family to them (thought with a possibly
nice-guy non-Mormon) rather than the "Temple marriage" ideal be
the decent thing to do? Or is it better for them to go their
whole lives alone and unfulfilled?

The cult sacrifices the happiness of the members to the building
up of loyalty to the cult. Doesn't get much uglier than that.

baura Wrote:

> The cult sacrifices the happiness of the members
> to the building
> up of loyalty to the cult. Doesn't get much
> uglier than that.


^^^^^^^^^

if they married a non-mo and did not manage to convert him so they could have a 'temple marriage' then any and all kids borne will not be sealed to their mother. no way could they allow that - better to be single in this life than not sealed to your offspring in the next.

So we can see that the church feels it is better to have never loved at all than to have loved and lost.

They can make any sad circumstance even worse can't they? They must stay up nights thinking up depressing shit to write just to extract maximum guilt.

RB

Jesus Christ experienced "singleness" ?
Holy shit, I was taught in the 1970's that he was married with children, kind of like Al Bundy

Jesus is now the singleness singularity.

He was perfect so he didn't need to be married. Somehow a single godman trumps a perfect couple. Ace in their hole in oneness.

And some are afflicted with simplemindedness.

Hey! they used the term "gay" in the Ensign!

Good God you are right!

"gay attraction"

Packer is rolling in his grave. Gay isn't a word in his vocabulary for homosexuality. He could be gay without that connotation.

Well, most of the 15 could probably remember when God's Plan of Gayness wouldn't have meant more than happy.

just to clarify I wrote the O.P. fast and crass. They used the all too familiar "same sex attraction," the word gay isn't part of the religious vocabulary, I don't think.

This is Hilarious poopstone!
These editors have truly perfected "waaaah" factor, Lol!


Okay, singles, pay, obey, and go to 'church.'
You'll feel lots mo' bettah! :D

I lost my faith while I worked for the church.

All the "happily" married people I worked with were always trying to set me up.

My manager actually emailed a lawyer asking for their runner's name and phone number after him and a couple others in the office invented this crush I had on this guy I spoke with less than 5 mins between two encounters. He forwarded the email to me and said "good news." This was one of the least harassing things my boss did trying to get me married for eternity (I'll exclude the discrimination because that is off topic).

The *best* part was the lectures (yes, plural) about how I need to stop being stubborn because I was going to miss promptings of the spirit and I needed to be openminded while dating.

When reported HR I was told that it wasn't harassment for a few reasons:
1) I didn't report it when it first started
2) They didn't mean to harass me; they were trying to help
3) None of this is ever inappropriate because just like sharing the gospel, married people are so happy that they just want to share that joy with others.

Even at my true bluest, I never once even brought up the "gospel" with someone who wasn't interested. I was always happy to answer any questions and bear my testimony, but I never forced my religion on anyone. Yet, all the "every member a missionary" thing always made me feel guilty that I wasn't more forceful about sharing the truth.

I hate how the morg teaches there is only ONE way to live your life and be happy. Only marriage and kids will give you the supreme happiness of Jesus.

I can honestly say that I've never been happier than since I stopped going to church and didn't have to deal with all the shit of being told every week how my "greatest" (i.e. only) purpose in life was to get married, have kids, and do everything I could to support my husband's priesthood.

I'm just glad I'm out. I couldn't deal with being married right now. Being single is the best thing for me.

it was only when I was truly happy with my own company and was actually accepting and contented with my prospective future as a mad aunt and never a wife and mother when I met my soon to be husband.

I'm glad you are happy just the way you are - most people hate their own company through a fear of 'being alone' with their own thoughts.

Being happy and content with your own self is a great way to be and is something a lot of people never ever achieve, especially not mormons.

poopstone Wrote:
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> What's in the ensign this month? I list some of
> the lovely passages for you enlightenment today
> (depression on every page if you ask me)....
> yikes!
>
> " Another painful affliction is singleness, those
> who suffer this circumstance should remember that
> our Savior experienced this, and offers strength
> to bear this..." (pg 9) (depressing isn't it?)

I thought Jesus was married and had several wives including Mary Magdalene and Martha.