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Posted by: greekgod ( )
Date: March 24, 2011 10:00PM

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/24/texas-sheds-light-americas-settlers/

Interesting stuff.

If anyone can find a better article with more information on this discovery let me know, as I am not a huge fan of fox news.

Edit: http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/SCI-ARTIFACTS_4723849/SCI-ARTIFACTS_4723849/

apparently this discovery suggests that earlier settlements were made by humans traveling by...boat xD



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2011 10:06PM by greekgod.

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Posted by: greekgod ( )
Date: March 24, 2011 10:14PM

"The first Americans, or Paleo Indians, were the first to explore the Rockies and Andes, the Mississippi, the Amazon. They were first to see giant elephants and bison roaming Ice Age Kansas. They dodged everything from giant Dire wolves, giant short-faced bears, saber-toothed cats, and American lions."


Elephants guys. I'm scared.

I mean, ELEPHANTS.

**Flips open BoM** oh wait, it doesn't go back to 16,000 bc, nevermind. whew..

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: March 24, 2011 10:59PM

On one of them he'd never seen "optical luminescence" dating used in this fashion... .

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,145685,145699#msg-145699

Welcome to the pitfalls of "science reporting"; the NY Times article notes,

>Given the lack of sufficient organic material buried around the tools, the radiocarbon dating method was useless.

So you can anticipate arguments on the stratigraphy (layering of earth where the artifacts were found and whether it was disturbed) as well as the accuracy of the dates...

On this stuff I've just been a student and reporter with a computer mouse (single button, not bifacial) and some Google skills; I put up that post on the other thread about the timetable of "Dog DNA" because it strikes me as probably significant (it also did to the archaeologist I read who mentioned it).

BTW, on the subject of canine DNA, any of it found so far in the pre-Columbian New World has come from wolves around China and not the Holy Land...

And a bit of background reporting: the archaeolgist mentioned, Michael Waters, has been searching for "pre-Clovis" sites in Texas for some time...

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2001_3351362

>Collins, 60, falls solidly into the camp of pre-Clovis supporters, he says, because of what lies buried beneath the clay soil at the so-called Gault site, named for an early owner of the property.

This was from 2001...



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