Alright guys, it's me, I'm back. So before I jump right into this absolutely crazy story, I will be giving an update on my situation because I am sure that is what you will all be wanting to hear.

So the bust of a season has been a hell of a lot WORSE than I thought. So far Exmo Aspie has made 92 bucks profit working in Alaska. It's bad.

There's a lot of good things about Alaska, and so far, roommates are not one of them. I've heard of bad roommates, but I'm sure a couple of mine take the cake. By the way, I share a bedroom with 5 other men. 2 of my roommates are mormon, 2 are drunks, and the other is well balanced. Yes I've had one of my roommates get drunk off his ass and then urinate all over our stuff. The other gets slammed drunk for days on end and spill beer and vodka all over the floor.

Now the mormons, now there's something. Yes, everybody I flew out with were mormons. Not even kidding. And I was the only Utahn. The rest were from Texas and Maine.

One is super TBM and the other is kind of jack/TBM hybrid. But sadly, even the jack mormons aren't free from the bonkers crazy of mormonism.

This fucking guy claimed that the mountain meadows massacre was like some big conspiracy, and that the mormons didn't do it, and the perpetrators claimed to be mormon, and flow of bullshit.

So I had to whip out knowledge and reason on his ass, even after all of it though he still wasn't totally convinced.

Why does mormonism have to be so dumb...

"This fucking guy claimed that the mountain meadows massacre was like some big conspiracy, and that the mormons didn't do it, and the perpetrators claimed to be mormon, and flow of bullshit."

Just tell the twit to read Bishop John D. Lee's confession before he says another idiotic word on the subject:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mountainmeadows/leeconfession.html

The LDS church officially apologized for MMM in 2007. It may be the only thing they've apologized for in the last 180 years. So yeah, its not a conspiracy unless you consider the church leaders conspirators.

If you don't think BY had the right stuff for this, look up the Black Hawk War.

"The LDS church officially apologized for MMM in 2007."

Yep, and the "Ensign" magazine published an article about it in 2007 as well:

https://www.lds.org/ensign/2007/09/the-mountain-meadows-massacre?lang=eng

Problem is, the church has suppressed the truth about the MMM for so long that many church members of today still think that Mormons weren't to blame.

The church has never accepted responsibility for MMM. The best they could muster was an acknowledgment that it happened and that it was sad but they still did not accept any responsibility for any part of it.

It sounds like you're "up to speed" about MMM, but here are some links for many who aren't:

http://www.mazeministry.com/mormonism/mmmassacre/newmm/mm1.htm

(Gag! There's a site that is owned by a Mormon, and it actually has many of the details correct, but it absolves Brigham Young and blames it on the Cedar City locals, including William Dame. The church-sanctioned "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" absolves Dame, because if he was guilty--and John D. Lee implicates him--then there's no way Brigham Young wasn't involved as well)

Books:

https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Meadows-Massacre-Juanita-Brooks/dp/0806123184

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=bagley+blood+of+the+prophets

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=bagley+bigler+the+mormon+rebellion

https://www.amazon.com/House-Mourning-Biocultural-Mountain-2008-02-27/dp/B01F7XC2NC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1469594999&sr=8-3&keywords=novak+house+of+mourning

(This last one is for serious MMM students only. Shannon Novak is the forensic anthropologist who studied the remains of the victims unearthed in the 1999 monument reconstruction. That story was what prompted my interest in the subject. They didn't talk about it in Utah schools in the 1960's).

Major Carleton's report:

http://mountainmeadows.unl.edu/archive/mmm.doc.carleton.1902.html



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The MMM guy is crazy or has no idea what he's talking about.

My uncle was a high school teacher and worthy priesthood holder adult and he spewed the same MMM garbage. I guess it's story that's still going to this day.

Sorry to hear about the roomies. I had hoped by going to Alaska you'd at least be rid of Mormonism. And drink roommates are no fun, I know. Had a couple of those in the army.

"Why does mormonism have to be so dumb..."

Because this is an existential question. People will do or say or believe or reject anything to maintain their existence. Stupidity is well within the options when one's entire being is on the line.

Mormons have to be dumb, or they can't be Mormons. Intelligence and Mormonism are mutually exclusive. They cannot coexist. Faced with losing their Mormonism, some members choose ignorance and stupidity. Reasoning with them is a waste of your time.

I don't argue with Mormons unless they first show me evidence they are capable of killing their faith--i.e., they're capable of thinking. Lacking that signal I have better things to do.

Sorry you didn't make more money, but...what an adventure!
Seriously, after the fact all you can do is laugh about a roommate who pees on your stuff, right? :)

Welcome back.