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Posted by: ^ ( )
Date: August 03, 2016 10:14PM

Let the record show that, historically, the LDS Cult has preached as part of its divinely revealed doctrine that both homosexuality and monogamy are against the laws of God.

Below are sourced quotes to prove it:

"Is Homosexuality or Monogamy the Ruin of Civilization?,"

"We've all heard today's LDS Church leaders blaming the fall of the Roman empire and the decline of civilization on Homosexuality. Here's just a sampling of Mormon Prophets making this claim:

'This heinous homosexual sin is of the ages. Many cities and civilizations have gone out of existence because of it. It was present in Israel’s wandering days, tolerated by the Greeks, and found in the baths of corrupt Rome.'

- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, 'President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality,' LDS 'New Era,' November 1980, p. 39


'Alternatives to the legal and loving marriage between a man and a woman are helping to unravel the fabric of human society. I am sure this is pleasing to the devil. The fabric I refer to is the family. These so-called alternative life-styles must not be accepted as right, because they frustrate God’s commandment for a life-giving union of male and female within a legal marriage as stated in Genesis. If practiced by all adults, these life-styles would mean the end of the human family.'

- Apostle James E. Faust, 'Serving the Lord and Resisting the Devil,' in 'Liahona,' November 1995, p. 3.


"But this is the same argument that inspired Mormon Prophets have used against good-old heterosexual monogamy!

"See here what the Lord said through His prophets from the Mormon Church pulpit:

'It is a fact worthy of note that the shortest lived nations of which we have record have been monogamic. Rome.. . . was a monogamic nation and the numerous evils attending that system early laid the foundation for that ruin which eventually overtook her.'

- Apostle George Q. Cannon, 'Journal of Discourses,' Vol. 13, p. 202


'Since the founding of the Roman empire monogamy has prevailed more extensively than in times previous to that. The founders of that ancient empire were robbers and women stealers, and made laws favoring monogamy in consequence of the scarcity of women among them, and hence this monogamic system which now prevails throughout Christendom, and which had been so fruitful a source of prostitution and whoredom throughout all the Christian monogamic cities of the Old and New World, until rottenness and decay are at the root of their institutions both national and religious.'

- The Prophet Brigham Young,'Journal of Discourses,' Vol. 11, p. 128


' . . . [T]he one-wife system not only degenerates the human family, both physically and intellectually, but it is entirely incompatible with philosophical notions of immortality; it is a lure to temptation, and has always proved a curse to a people.'

- Prophet John Taylor, 'Millennial Star,' Vol. 15, p. 227


'Monogamy, or restrictions by law to one wife, is no part of the economy of heaven among men. Such a system was commenced by the founders of the Roman empire. . . . Rome became the mistress of the world, and introduced this order of monogamy wherever her sway was acknowledged. Thus this monogamic order of marriage, so esteemed by modern Christians as a holy sacrament and divine institution, is nothing but a system established by a set of robbers.... Why do we believe in and practice polygamy? Because the Lord introduced it to his servants in a revelation given to Joseph Smith, and the Lord's servants have always practiced it. 'And is that religion popular in heaven?' it is the only popular religion there, . . . '

- The Prophet Brigham Young, 'The Deseret News,' August 6, 1862


'This law of monogamy, or the monogamic system, laid the foundation for prostitution and the evils and diseases of the most revolting nature and character under which modern Christendom groans, . . . '

-Apostle Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, page 195


'We breathe the free air, we have the best looking men and handsomest women, and if they (Non-Mormons) envy us our position, well they may, for they are a poor, narrow-minded, pinch-backed race of men, who chain themselves down to the law of monogamy, and live all their days under the dominion of one wife. They ought to be ashamed of such conduct, and the still fouler channel which flows from their practices; and it is not to be wondered at that they should envy those who so much better understand the social relations.'

- Apostle George A Smith, 'Journal of Discourses,' Vol. 3, p. 291


'Just ask yourselves, historians, when was monogamy introduced on to the face of the earth? When those buccaneers, who settled on the peninsula where Rome now stands, could not steal women enough to have two or three apiece, they passed a law that a man should have but one woman. And this started monogamy and the downfall of the plurality system. In the days of Jesus, Rome, having dominion over Jerusalem, they carried out the doctrine more or less. This was the rise, start and foundation of the doctrine of monogamy; and never till then was there a law passed, that we have any knowledge of, that a man should have but one wife.'

- The Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses Vol. 12, p. 262


"Will history look back and see today's Mormon prophets to be just as ignorant, bigoted and self-serving as Mormon prophets of the 19th Century?"

("LDS Mormon Monogamy/Homosexuality: "Is Homosexuality or Monogamy the Ruin of Civilization?," http://www.i4m.com/think/sexuality/homosexual_ruin.htm)
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More definitive teachings from the Mormon Cult laying out the drawbacks and diadvantages of monogamy while praising its blessed and God-delivered doctrine of polygamy:

'I have noticed that a man who has but one wife, and is inclined to that doctrine, soon begins to wither and dry up, while a man who goes into plurality looks fresh, young, and sprightly. Why is this? Because God loves that man, and because he honors his word. Some of you may not believe this, but I not only believe it but I also know it. For a man of God to be confined to one woman is small business. . . . I do not know what we should do if we had only one wife apiece.'

- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, 'Deseret News,' April 22, 1857


'[Children of polygamists] besides being equally as bright and brighter intellectually, are much more healthy and strong.'

- Apostle George Q. Cannon, 'Journal of Discourses,' v. 13, p. 207


'Talk about polygamy! There is no true philosopher on the face of the earth but what will admit that such a system, properly carried out according to the order of heaven, is far superior to monogamy for the raising of healthy, robust children!'

- Prophet Brigham Young, 'Journal of Discourses,' v. 13, p. 317


'Patriarchal marriage involves conditions, responsibilities and obligations which do not exist in monogamy, and there are blessings attached to the faithful observance of that law, if viewed only upon natural principles, which must so far exceed those of monogamy, as the conditions responsibilities and power of increase are greater. This is my view and testimony in relation to this matter. I believe it is a doctrine that should be taught and understood.'

- Prophet Joseph F. Smith, 'Journal of Discourses,' Vol.20, p.30, July 7, 1878


'The benefits derived from the righteous observance of this order of marriage [polygamy] do not accrue solely to the husband, but are shared equally by the wives; not only is this true upon the grounds of obedience to a divine law, but upon physiological and scientific principles. In the latter view, the wives are even more benefited, if possible, than the husband physically. But, indeed, the benefits naturally accruing to both sexes, and particularly to their offspring, in time, say nothing of eternity, are immensely greater in the righteous practice of patriarchal marriage than in monogamy, even admitting the eternity of the monogamic marriage covenant.'

- Prophet Joseph F. Smith, 'Journal of Discourses,' Vol.20, p.31, July 7, 1878

("Polygamy: Back to Mormon Quotes Index," http://www.mormonthink.com/QUOTES/polygamy.htm)
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Related thread currently up and running on RfM:

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,329428

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Posted by: Atari ( )
Date: August 04, 2016 07:32AM

Oh wait, I thought God didn't change!

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Posted by: Anziano Young ( )
Date: August 04, 2016 09:42PM

"If practiced by all adults, these life-styles would mean the end of the human family."

This is as ridiculous as if Faust had said, "If we all rode horses, the American auto industry would go bankrupt."

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Posted by: a nanny mouse ( )
Date: August 06, 2016 04:20PM

"if practiced by all adults" - the only people who have this fear are the closeted gay people for whom the only thing keeping them from being gay is massive societal disapproval and self loathing. For everyone else, if given the choice, they will still happily choose the opposite gender, thanks.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: August 06, 2016 10:37AM

Of all religions, the LDS church is the most laughable when they spout off about families and marriage.

They have zero credibility. To not admit that they just make up rules according to their views at the time is dishonest.


Good thing that the past prophets were only speaking as a man and the current one has it right! Har.

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