So I have noticed that when LDS Corp takes a position, it words it as “the church has a long-standing position…” or “the church has consistently…” “The church will always…”

Not, God had told us, or Jesus mentioned to me at our last meeting that…or thus saith the lord….

First of all, “the church” is the members, not the leaders, but that is a discussion for another thread.

Second, lately there have been a lot of mealy-mouthed explanations, that, if translated into plain English, say that the leadership do the best they can, but they don’t talk to Jesus on the reg.

That is a big “Wait a minute” moment for members that have been in the church and jumped all the hoops because they were brainwashed and raised on this one idea, upon which all Mormonism lives:

All other churches are wrong because they only have well-meaning leaders, but ours talk directly to Jesus (insert faith promoting seminary story here, like they meet with him on Thursday mornings at the temple or how the have seen Jesus upon being called to the 12).

What they are saying now is this: we are just like other churches, but stay anyway, because we are really nice and, really, you have been in it this long already.

10 minutes after realizing this, Mormons should realize the consequential “so these guys have just been giving their opinion this whole time?!”

Aaaaah! I married too soon! I got into too much debt! I should have finished school! I should have put my family first! I should not have gone on a mission! I should have turned down that calling! I should not have believed it as the word of God! It was just well meaning grandpas spouting their out-of-date, shifting opinion!

No wonder they contradict themselves. No wonder they can’t keep their story straight. No wonder there are uninspired and can’t tell the future. No wonder they are racist, xenophobes, sexist and homophobes. No wonder that when they are cornered their response is no pull the: do you know who I am?! No wonder Boyd K. Packer.

Well LDS leadership, the thing is most of us already have an overly-opinionated, racist grandpa, one that condemns mini-skirts and too many earrings and unshaven men, one that gives platitudes and war stories, one that has too many grand kids to remember us, but who has an opinion on everything but can’t explain a thing.

So, I don’t need your racist grandpa service. Thanks.

My grandpa means well and is not a systematic liar. Mine actually sends me checks for $3.50 for my birthday. He does not cost me 10% of my gross salary and my freedom.

You go ahead and sit on grandpa’s lap and ask him to run your life for you, believe him when he tell you he hears Jesus’ will for you, (which surprisingly is already written down in a secret manual and whose decisions and input only benefit the LDS church).

I’ll be home on Sunday, running my own life.



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One of my late grandpas (never Mo,) wasn't racist per se.

But my, how he detested anything to do with the Mormon church. Guess that would make him bigoted at least, or severely prejudiced (is there a difference?)

He despised it so much he stopped speaking to my mother for 14 years after she joined, and only started speaking to her again on his deathbed.

Good post, btw!

:))



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"Has an opinion on everything, but can't explain anything."

You hit the nail on the head. Quote of the Day!

That's Mormonism now days: we have the answer, and the answer is we don't know

Regarding that $3.50 birthday check: I assume you're forwarding the $0.35 annually to the church, which of course is your duty.

Cheat the church and you cheat Heavenly Father, as you're well aware.

Don't make me tell your bishop about the $0.35. Do the right thing.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna spend a good ten minutes scratching my junk, because these garments are itchy as hell but I have to wear them if I want my own planet.

"You can't do that the way you're trying to do it."

"Why not?"

"Because that's not how we do it. It's not how we've ever done it. We've always done it THIS way."

"But what if another way is better?"

"It's not."

"How do you know if you've never tried another way?"

"I just know. Do it the way we've always done it."

"Screw off, I'm trying a new way."

"Heretic!"

In the sixties...there was a show called don messers jubilee during which the bookty dancers showed a lot of knee under those petticoats...even as a wee lad i found it humorous that dad and gramps would cluck away in dismay at the scandalous display of feminine delight...yet like a car wreck couldnt look away...moism has always been about denying the natural man...with those jokers in the preporn days...im sure they only clucked at hefners smut for the scholarly articles...hypocrites are us...you cant fool the kids with your talk of declining morals and end of the world hyperbole...just admit you liked it...theyll thank you for sounding normal...best text i ever got...thanks dad for not making us feel guilty about masturbation or looking at nekkid pictures ...i never once tried to shame them if they were perusing the beauties of nature...my only comment was usually...wow..she looks healthy...mom on the other hand....my girls seemed more in love with hair and music and boy bands..still not sure how they couldnt see the problem with 300000 young girls all in love with four guys at the same time...just like kolob....teen agers arent guilty of rational thinking at times but they grow into it...mostly

I suspect there are a lot of Mormons trying to find reasons to keep believing the brethren are somehow something more than just well meaning grandpas.

The "Good Grandpa" isn't.

My gramps wasn't too racist even though his forefathers were notorious bigots. but grammy, oh boy, she had a mouth. She hated Asians. It was a world war 2 thing. All good Americans were suppose to despise that part of the world. Not fond of blacks or Mexicans either.

I think the bretheren aren't much different. Utahn's are likely some of the most racist people around.



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My dad didn't hate Asians, but he didn't trust them either. He served in WWII stateside. He didn't see any battle, was a military policeman in California.

It did seem ingrained in his generation. One of his cousins he'd grown up with plane was shot down over Hawaii fighting the Japanese.

Two US pilots were shot down 'over Hawaii' by the Japanese. On the same day! What are the odds!!

Which one is your 2nd cousin? Oh wait. I forgot that you don't use the common definition of 'cousin'... But anyway, which cousin was it?

Thank you EOD for researching that. I'm not a history buff of WWII. I just recall dad and the father of the killed pilot who spoke of his son when I was a child when we were visiting their home.

I haven't heard the story of dad's cousin since I was a little girl. I was at first thinking it was the Pacific Rim, and knew he'd been shot down over the ocean by the Japanese, so I confused that with the Hawaiian action.

After checking my family history online, I just learned he was shot down over the Pacific during the Philippine battle with the Japanese, in September 1944. So I was right in initially believing it was the Pacific Rim.

It was the "Philippines Campaign," which he piloted an airplane that was shot down by the Japanese.