The view of Utah County has forever changed.

http://fox13now.com/2017/09/21/byu-to-sell-caffeinated-sodas-on-campus/


(A little additional edit:) I wonder if this news today isn't intended to take some of attention of TSCC spending $35,000,000 on a piece of paper, purporting to be from the BOM. They want the members talking about it instead of that.



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Go on BYU FCB page -BYU claims that there was no demand for caffeine soda previously. Hahaha, they probably never looked in trash bins all over the campus.
It's a big step for BYU. But I always missed coffee on campus.

Yep. And it's coke. Red Can (U of U colors) Cokes.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689285/BYU-to-sell-caffeinated-soft-drinks-on-campus-starting-today.html

This is a slippery slope. Could lead to coffee, which we all know leads to whisky and heroin.

And exmormon.org ...

Hopefully!

It leads to whiskey, heroin, masturbation, murder, homosexuality and apostasy. And always strictly in that order.

Where does failure to do Home Teaching or Visiting Teaching fit on the list?

I think it's when you masturbate, while doing whisky shots in front of your assigned teachings, that they ask you to stop. (teaching)

Visitors Welcome Wrote:
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> It leads to whiskey, heroin, masturbation, murder,
> homosexuality and apostasy. And always strictly in
> that order.


What?! No porn?

And dancing...could lead to ... dancing...

I never thought I'd see this in my lifetime.

Truly a sign of continuing revelation.

If anyone here ever suffers from thoughts of returning to the Morg, you should read some of the self righteous, condescending comments from TBM's about this story on KSL.com or the Deseret News. They are happy to testify about what is basically a silly issue.

next it will be reefer

on 22% of Utahns oppose medical marijuana

http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/14386-poll-broad-support-among-utahns-for-medical-marijuana-ballot-initiative-including-strong-support-among-mormons

This has everything to do with advertising dollars that Coke with throw at BYU

soon there will be Coke ads all over campus

Its always about the money

Hard to believe. I went to BYU decades ago and I could tell stories about how ridiculous that TBM crowd could get about their sodas. I bet they will sell enough to fill the Great Salt Lake.

And restore Lake Bonneville!

To bad they didn't add coffee. Then they might still have their ROTC programs! ;)

nomonomo Wrote:
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> To bad they didn't add coffee. Then they might
> still have their ROTC programs! ;)

They didn't have to go nearly that far.
They just had to allow the non-mormon ROTC guy to drink coffee off-campus in his own home.
But no, can't do that. Coffee is evil.

:)

Actually, about 6 weeks ago, after facing national ridicule and a plan to move forward with bringing the ROTC to nearby UVU, BYU backed down to allow the decorated military combat vet to drink coffee in the privacy of his own home. How magnanimous.

See? Proof of continuing revelation!

I've noticed, that over the years, "continuing revelation" always seems to arrive after mass ridicule or outrage. Funny how that works.

If we keep making fun of Mormonism it will continue to evolve. An embarrassed Mormon is a motivated Mormon. This is a call to action, and I am ready to serve.

Good soldier. Carry on. Fire at will.

donbagley Wrote:
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> If we keep making fun of Mormonism it will
> continue to evolve.

Don, I think you've come up with a new twist on evolution: "Unnatural Selection."

No, can't sell hot caffeine, only cold. You know. It's a health thing. Even though coffee is way better for you than soda. You're right, it's a slippery slope though. Watch for the insider trading. When LDS, Inc. purchases major shares of Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts, you'll know the hot caffeine revelation is just around the corner.

When my bro was getting his graduate degree at BYU back in the day, his fix of choice was Pepsi and cola products.

He was burning the candle at both ends. It was caffeine that helped him meet those deadlines and schedules.

He didn't apologize about it. He's always held a TR since his mission. I wondered if that was something that came up in his temple interviews.

But then my parents were addicted to cola products when we were growing up, and that didn't stop them from renewing their TR's. At the time it was one of the banned items on the WoW list.

Well, when the "profit" drinks Pepsi by the gallon, how can they not?

Did he drink Pepsi ... in front of outsiders (at the Lard's Mall)?

Do we remember that BS about 'the appearance of evil'?



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Whatever next? Pants for the ladies??

The will of the God that inspired this does cave to public opinion!

We know the mormon ghawd is big into surveys. He inspires people to respond to these surveys, and thus the leadership learns his will.


ETA: Just like in the bible!!!!



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Wow ok!! I'm back in. Where do I sign?

Guess they think that making caffeine available to the players, it will fix their football team!

And what about BYU-I? They truly HATE it when BYU gets all modern on them. BYU-I sees itself as the Holy of Holies in the BYU system.

Hazing at BYU will consist of pouring the freshmen 12 shot glasses of Mt. Dew and seeing who can down them the fastest.

Wild times ahead!

It keeps getting more and more ridiculous!!

I thought Monson would have his own energy drink by now.

"And if a 90 year old president can make it through conference, then so can you. The next time you really need to stay awake for finals; have a Monson! It will get you going and going."



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In the TV ads, at the end, he's drinking a can of grape Monson and his ears wiggle, followed by the sound widows swooning.

Before we praise BYU, let us remember that Milktoberfest is coming up next month.

My friend mentioned this to me earlier today.

Not that Mormons weren't already drinking coke and pepsi, but it took them this long to allow it on campus?????

My husband was attending BYU when TAB came out. It was a huge it. Caffeinated drinks have been available all over town. Why not on BYU campus. It's not against the Word of Wisdom.

How surprised I was to learn that Tab is still a product.

Can't remember the last time I've seen it on a grocery shelf.

It is at Walmart.

My mom drank Tab and Freska in the 60s/70s. They were the first diet sodas, I think. I took a swig once and it was disgusting. Only sugar will do for me, LOL.

I think Coke and other sodas tasted so much better when they were made with regular sugar and not corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup. You can buy the Coke that comes from Mexico at Target. It comes in a glass bottle and is made with real sugar. I think corn syrup in sodas is not allowed in Mexico.

Story made CBS network news (western edition) tonite...

The story made the Washington Post too.

A Mormon told me online that caffeine was never banned. It was just that there was no demand for it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I recall a soda machine on the BYUH campus in 1970 that vended caffeinated sodas. That place is the devil's playground.

Hmmmm, now where did I put Mr. Barcardi?

My mother went to BYU during the Ernie Wilkinson days. If you ask her, cola drinks (even caffeine-free ones) are against the word of wisdom. Even though the church has never "officially" come out against them, those who seek the true light of the gospel will never partake of them. To this day, she boasts that in her entire life of 70 years she has never once tasted coca-cola.

I never did either until my first day in the mission field after leaving the MTC. I have a vivid memory of that day.

The mission van dropped me and a group of other greenies off around 11:00 a.m. in a church parking lot in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. It was the height of subtropical carribean summer--probably 90+ degrees with 100% humidity. I spent the next seven hours traipsing through a concrete jungle of slums filled with what, to me, seemed like filthy ramshackle huts made of precarious concrete block and trash with the complete stranger who would be my new companion with nothing to eat or drink.

Within ten minutes, I was completely lost in the winding streets, tunnels, short cuts, alleys, and literal holes in walls my companion took me through. As evening fell, I was disoriented, terrified, overheated, exhausted, and dehydrated. Oh, and my feet hurt.

Then, m companion took me to visit an investgator in a small, one-room house (with a sheet hanging as a curtain to separate the sitting area/kitchen from the bed). It was stifling hot inside.

As soon as we sat down the lady of the house sent her skinny little boy (he looked about 5 years old to me; he, like all the other children I had seen that day, was naked except for a pair of colorful brief-style underwear) to the tiny store down the street with 5 pesos to buy my companion and me something cold to drink. I had figured out that only the little stores (colmados) had any kind of refrigerators in this neighborhood.

He came back a few minutes later with two plastic cups and an ice cold bottle of... coca-cola.

My mind was racing and I started to panic. What should we do?! We couldn't send it back and ask for something else. I could see that it had already been opened. We couldn't refuse it. Not only would that be rude, it was apparent the the woman didn't have a lot money lying around for luxuries like cold soda. I looked at my companion. He was completely unfazed as he took a drink of the brown, bubbling liquid from his cup. "God will forgive me, I guess," I said to myself. Then I, too, took a drink.

Never, and I mean NEVER has any drink before or since tasted so amazingly good and satisfying as that cold coca-cola did on that evening 16 years ago.

Word of wisdom be damned.

That's a beautiful story. I've given up soda, but coke was my favorite.


P.S. sometimes I cheat.

We used to walk a mile from our dorm to buy Coke.

No demand--no one who ever went to BYU would believe that!

LDS, Inc. owns Amalgamated Sugar, which supplies the sugar in Coca-cola. It's all about business and money.

Coca Cola is not made with sugar - the sweet taste is from high fructose corn syrup. Here are the ingredients: carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, carmel color, phosphoric acid, natural flavors, caffeine. Sooooo nutritious!

No demand my foot! Everyone knew it was a WoW thing. I had to buy it off campus if I wanted any.

I still remember move out day at the end of the semester and I had bought a Diet Coke (off campus) for when I got finished cleaning and packing. Finally, my work is done and I go to get it out of the fridge and it's gone. One of my roommates breezes by and says, "Oh, I drank that. And eww, it tasted awful!"

Ooooh! I was so mad. If she was going to take my last Coke, she should have at LEAST enjoyed it!

(from the Deseret News article)
"The LDS Church's Missionary Training Center adjacent to the BYU campus is supplied by BYU Dining Services. However, it will not have caffeinated sodas, church spokesman Doug Andersen said."

Now *that* is a place that could use some caffeine.
I personally struggled to stay awake and alert there at least 85% of the time.

:)

Why is the evil cola okay for mere students at the lawrd's college, but NOT suitable for the pre-missionaries?

LDS, Inc. = nutty as ever.

O, btw, Pepsi and RC are okay, too, yes?

Or, did Coca-Cola get an exclusive Mormon nod?

Coke or Pepsi need to come out with a carbonated Mormon Tea.

Ephedrine for the masses!

I heard about this on the radio this morning in california! Big news! Cog-dis must be setting in for my mother. My other TBM family members love being able to openly drink caffeine nowadays...my mother will never, even if it is now 'allowed' because she is sooooooo brainwashed to think that caffeine is of the devil.

A bunch of octogenarians have proclaimed it ok to imbibe in a harmless drink. And it makes headlines. And what part of the word CULT do they not understand?

The article said that it was only hot drinks like coffee and tea that were prohibited. I remember hot chocolate being routinely served at church events where there was cold weather. These rules are madness. Some day they're going to say that the whole coffee prohibition thing was a misunderstanding. Maybe the law of chastity is just a misunderstanding too. Some church rules serve no purpose other than to make people feel somehow special and different than everyone else. This whole caffine issue is one of them.



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