What matters most in life? A roof over my head, bills all paid up, a nice fire when it's freezing cold, a grandchild's smile, a grown child's "I love you dad", a swig of very fine Kentucky bourbon, a kiss so memorable that you remember the taste years later.Certainly not this board. But, we come here for a reason. However convoluted that reason is. I've had my feelings hurt here, and I've learned a lot also. I've been told this site makes me angry; maybe so. What bothers "me" is all the political posts. When I try to put my two cents in, I get deleted. Pot meet kettle.
I've learned what Amy Jo has stated, pick and choose what you read. It's hard at first, but you gain a sense of empowerment by exercizing your ddiscernment.own

Own your feelings and your fears. I don't always agree with you; especially you liberal types, but I have learned from you; and respect you. You have a right to your beliefs, as do I. Please don't leave. I enjoy your posts, and your different viewpoints. We're all in this together. Try to be tolerant of me, and I'll try and be tolerant of you.
I don't read certain posters because I don't want too. Why should I, I know what they're going to say? Blah- blah- blah. Atheism, Liberalism, Communism,abounds here. I've learned from it. This board is supposed to be about Recovery From Mormonism. Sometimes, it's anything but...

Adam, I avoid your posts like the plague. But, I've noticed that you are changing. Maybe for the better. I hope so. Just don't become like the bullies that you so much hate. Kindness is all that matters. If. you can be kind and grow into the real Adam, the one you were meant to be, then you are interesting to me. I'm proud of you. You are on the verge of an awakening I think. Just be kind.
We have so much to learn from each other here on this board. A much better chance than if we were still in that spirit stifling church. We're here for a reason. The draw was "recovery from Mormonism", let's keep it that way.

Holidays are so stressful, I have experienced this so many times, first hand, but isn't the theme supposed to be about love? Well, what in the heck is love? When ya'll figure that out please let me know. I have not experienced rape or molest but I have expierienced senceless beatings. We have to go on. What's the option?

Nope not a new moniker. I am not deceitful. At least I try not to be. Amy Jo probably projects more of my thoughts than I am capable of, but I am not her. We would probably have major disagreements, but still; as far as this board goes, we would probably agree.

My counselor and i talked about this today i am becoming the bullies and the abusers that i hated for so long. So i have to take a step back and i was told not to make any new topics for a week and then leave the site.

See ya!

I've been on this board for a long time. I don't know of a single communist.

The church was, historically, pretty quasi-commie, so most of us on aren't on board that stuff.

BTW,I don't I've neve noticed you posting before. Hmmmmm.

It is recovery in a therapeutic sense. Speaking for me, and I'm sure numerous others, we all have SCARS on our souls from TSCC.

Deep, terrible scars of living a nasty, filthy lie most or all of our lives.

The awakening of our spirits to TRUTH about MORmONism is overwhelming. It is like falling in a deep hole and trying to climb out making some sense of it all?? Very hard to do on a whim.

I only found out 5 months ago. I am still reading more lies I professed believing in for decades. I am still trying to compute in my pea brain, IT IS ALL FAKE!!!

The comraderie us recovering souls have can enjoy some levity once in a while.

Try computing it a year out, it really hits you in a different way. You almost just feel sick about it all. The mind goes from being heavily programmed to realizing it may not have been true at all. Even when you know all of the facts it is hard for the mind to make the transition. The mind almost wants to go back to the lie.

Good post Boballoie. Love reading your posts btw.

:)

Amy Jo, Thank you. But you can't change the world. You might as well quit tryin'.It is what it is, I 've seen you attacked for your views, as well as others. You have managed to stay consistent through it all with class. I may not agree with your view point, but I respect it. Hats off to you. I think you are someone thats been there, done that; and for that I am someone that would like to meet you...

Thank you.

I've decided resignation is a learned discipline.

Not that I've given up. I have given *in.*

The Serenity Prayer has become one of my slogans. "Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. The courage to change the things I can. And the wisdom to know the difference."

;-)

A good deflection Amy Jo, be that what it may. I have heard this before, of course, who hasn't? Very classy.Also, very predictable. I haven't had the experience that you have had in the church. Everyone's experience is different. I still have people that I consider friends there. What to do? How do you get them to see? Any advice would be appreciated...

I don't believe you can get anyone there to "see." It's something people will either grow into a different understanding. Or stay where they're at.

That's what I learned from the serenity prayer and AA steps. You can't change anyone else except for yourself.

Letting go is part of the recovery process.

There are some LDS that I still regard as friends. Though they are few and scattered across the country. More family are LDS. Many cousins have left the cult. Others remain.

We just aren't on the same playing field anymore. If it wasn't for family I'd have cut my ties long ago.

Probably 95% of the GAs are monsters in Armani. Probably 75% of TBM elders and their families are decent, caring people who, if they were not so busy, so stressed trying to please the monsters in Armani, would be lovely to have as neighbors.

My TBM daughter is a very good person. Sure, she probably worries about the effect an atheist grandpa could have on her children, but now that they are older and have been pretty much lock-stepped into Orem, UT mormon marching order, she seems to have relaxed a bit. My missionary grandson must know that I'm, at the very least, an apostate, but we've never talked, so who knows what he thinks? But I'm planning to be there for his return so I can start working on him. He'll be released on June 26. I don't know if his folks are going down to tour his mission with him before he comes home. That apparently has become a 'thing'.

What I'm trying to say is that I can get along with mormons. A TBM joined our Wednesday golf group two weeks ago and when he found out I was an RM, he asked me what ward I was in. My response was that I was a willful apostate but that I refrained from preaching to TBMs about my beliefs. His response was, "well, 'willful', that must mean you're proud of it; why wouldn't you talk about it?" So I licked my lips and smacked my chops, but he never said another word about it 'til after the round and I ordered a diet Coke and he laughed and said that that was the #1 most popular drink in mormondom, and that they now sold it at the Y. And then he changed the subject. Nice guy, went to the Scottish mission in 1970.

Thankfully my happiness does not require that others either think or act like I do. What a horror that would be!! What I admire most is consistency. I like to think that once we each figure out the other, it's nice to stay in that character.

If you can get people to respect you, the battle is won, whether they agree with everything you do, say or feel. Of course if your personalities are too discordant, you're never going to be friends and it's hard to even work with people like that. But it's the way of the world, and you're probably as repellent to him as he is to you. (Feel free to use the pronouns that most suit you.)

Give to people who will take what you offer, take from people who willingly give you what you want/need, and ignore, politely, the rest, but always watch your back.

Life is easy when you're known to NOT step on people to get ahead.

I can stitch samplers of any of this if...

Wow, Elderolddog, that's powerful stuff. I particularly agreed with these sentiments:

"Thankfully my happiness does not require that others either think or act like I do. What a horror that would be!! What I admire most is consistency. I like to think that once we each figure out the other, it's nice to stay in that character.

If you can get people to respect you, the battle is won, whether they agree with everything you do, say or feel. Of course if your personalities are too discordant, you're never going to be friends and it's hard to even work with people like that. But it's the way of the world, and you're probably as repellent to him as he is to you. (Feel free to use the pronouns that most suit you.)

Give to people who will take what you offer, take from people who willingly give you what you want/need, and ignore, politely, the rest, but always watch your back.

Life is easy when you're known to NOT step on people to get ahead."

Could you stitch me a sampler please? ;-)

Tom in Paris

Oops, communism is an antiquated term, I'm dating myself by using it. According to the Chinese intern at work, the proper term is socialist. So there... As far as never posting, well, I've been here for over two years now but never really saw the need to post. I have responded to a few threads, and have been deleted on several; usually when trying to respond to a political post with a viewpoint that is different than the poster.I've been entertained here and disgusted. And learned a lot. I find it interesting how much personality comes out in just a few lines of text. What probably grabs me the most is the originality of the monikers used here. Some are very creative, and I enjoy the hell out of 'em!

It would be nice if the boards had a different format and you can block posters. I don't frequent here enough to have anyone in mind, but its a nice feature.

Administartion i want to leave my email for boner but i really don't want to expose it in the open again. I am confident that i will recover with strictly counseling at this stage but i want to stay in touch with the bone at the same time.

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> Administartion i want to leave my email for boner
> but i really don't want to expose it in the open
> again. I am confident that i will recover with
> strictly counseling at this stage but i want to
> stay in touch with the bone at the same time.

Email Eric K at: erickett@wingnet.net and explain what you have said here.

It may take him 24-48 hours to respond because he has a very busy life outside of RfM.

Alright thanks