the place mentally jumping from subject to subject and pacing constantly. This guy needs something holy fuck his pacing and talking is driving me bonkers.

Heeeeeeeeelp this is serious.

Does HE have any idea that he might benefit from taking something? Good luck; that sounds like a nightmare.

He won't fucking listen to me. Told him even i had to bite the bullet and take meds to help me out and get therapy. But this guy has been talking non-stop and in constant sporatic circles and been pacing literally since he moved in and he thinks he is perfectly normal. I am literally avoiding being in the house right now because his pacing was driving me bonkers. I feel like a psychiatrist and he is my patient that is not listening and noticing his bizarre pacing and non-stop talking. Fuck, i don't know what to do.

Get earplugs and put a lock on your bedroom door.

Amyjo Wrote:
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> Get earplugs and put a lock on your bedroom door.

Maybe i will get a lock on my door. He kerps turning off my lights constantly thinking it's going to save tons of money.

Either move out or ask him to....not healthy to subject yourself the him.

Lethbridge Reprobate Wrote:
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> Either move out or ask him to....not healthy to
> subject yourself the him.

Well financially he is saving my ass but it's coming at a higher cost than i realized.

You might ask your doctor for some Valium if that might help you.

Amyjo Wrote:
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> You might ask your doctor for some Valium if that
> might help you.

If valium is an anti-anxiety i am already on some stuff.

Whoa!! First, Badass, you need to make sure you are safe. Second, do NOT under any circumstances share meds. Hopefully, he’s not strung out on something. Even if he’s not taking/using, if he needs help, he needs his own doctor. There’s no fuckin’ way you want to get involved with his chemical imbalances if that’s what the non-stopping talking is about.

Can you talk with him to establish some boundaries like if you go n a room and close the door it means you don't want to talk?

BYU Boner Wrote:
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> Whoa!! First, Badass, you need to make sure you
> are safe. Second, do NOT under any circumstances
> share meds. Hopefully, he’s not strung out on
> something. Even if he’s not taking/using, if he
> needs help, he needs his own doctor. There’s no
> fuckin’ way you want to get involved with his
> chemical imbalances if that’s what the
> non-stopping talking is about.
>
> Can you talk with him to establish some boundaries
> like if you go n a room and close the door it
> means you don't want to talk?

I am actually not quite sure i am safe. He told me he is on meds but he is not on very much. He only takes one pill for shitzophrenia but he said it's under control but i really don't think it is. I was desperate financially boner so i am going to have to learn to deal with him. I have been around crazy people most of my life boner, people were doing death oaths behind my back as a kid for fuck's sakes. This is how my life began with crazy cult parents.

Badass, follow the advice below.

BYU Boner Wrote:
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> Badass, follow the advice below.

I can't afford to kick him out boner. I will be screwed financially and i refuse to ask my family for financial help if i can help it. He just needs to calm the fuck down like 10 notches.

Adam:

Google: What to Do in a Mental Health Emergency, Ada County, Idaho

Second return should be a (2-page, if you print it off) guide to what to do.

This gives very good advice, and local resources.

Do it now.

Tevai Wrote:
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> Adam:
>
> Google: What to Do in a Mental Health Emergency,
> Ada County, Idaho
>
> Second return should be a (2-page, if you print it
> off) guide to what to do.
>
> This gives very good advice, and local resources.
>
> Do it now.

I am just seeing phone numbers to call not any guide on what to do.

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> I am just seeing phone numbers to call not any
> guide on what to do.

Google: What to do if someone is having a mental health emergency, Boise, Idaho

It should come up second in the returns.

Adam may need numbers for Pocatello. Boise's on the other side of the state.

Here's a link for Pocatello https://211idaho.communityos.org/zf/profile/program/id/843726

Tevai Wrote:
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> Badassadam1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am just seeing phone numbers to call not any
> > guide on what to do.
>
> Google: What to do if someone is having a mental
> health emergency, Boise, Idaho
>
> It should come up second in the returns.

I think i found it. I don't know if he is dangerous or not but he needs some meds to calm him the hell down and quit pacing constantly. He is gone right now but he was literally making crazy with his pacing. I need to have a serious talk with him. He may be older than me but i definitely feel like the adult right now. I can't deal with this crazy shit every day when i am trying to live a normal life myself. I thought i left the crazy in the dust when i left the religion but apparently crazy is everywhere.

I've seen this similar phenomenon a few times, been through it myself as well. It's a big problem that doesn't go away easily. In this state of 'mad' a person may not accept going to bed either, and can't sleep at night. They should go visit their doctor in the morning. Because sleep regulates the mind and detoxes the brain from all the leftover hormones built up in the day.

anono this week Wrote:
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> I've seen this similar phenomenon a few times,
> been through it myself as well. It's a big problem
> that doesn't go away easily. In this state of
> 'mad' a person may not accept going to bed either,
> and can't sleep at night. They should go visit
> their doctor in the morning. Because sleep
> regulates the mind and detoxes the brain from all
> the leftover hormones built up in the day.

He does have sleep problems for sure.

Psychologist here. Doesn't sound like ADHD, call the cops, get him to the ER pronto

anon45 Wrote:
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> Psychologist here. Doesn't sound like ADHD, call
> the cops, get him to the ER pronto

I don't think he would let me. He is taking one med but that is it. I told him straight out he needs something to calm him down but he thinks he is fine and likes being hyperactive and over-talkative without any boundaries. Maybe this is just the way he is but it does not seem normal to me.

You mentioned he takes a pill for schizophrenia. IF you feel unsafe, this does warrant a call to the police. He will be evaluated and can be put on a 3-day hold for a med evaluation if he is indeed a danger to those around him.
I'm a licensed clinical social worker, this is part of what I do for a living!

JenMikell Wrote:
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> You mentioned he takes a pill for schizophrenia.
> IF you feel unsafe, this does warrant a call to
> the police. He will be evaluated and can be put
> on a 3-day hold for a med evaluation if he is
> indeed a danger to those around him.
> I'm a licensed clinical social worker, this is
> part of what I do for a living!

I have been watching his behavior for a while and i would like to see him get evaluated by a professional that i see on the regular or something. I am no professional but his behavior is not normal in my opinion. Most people would say after a day of being around him that he needs to be on something to calm him down or something. He says his one pill is enough but that is total crap. He is in denial and just doesn't want to be on more than one pill.

I get that having him go voluntarily is ideal, but it sounds like that may not be an option. You told us that he said he has Schizophrenia. Someone in this thread compared your roomie to Robin WIlliams, Mr. Williams, from what I understand, had a mood disorder and substance abuse issues, Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder. Again, if you are feeling in any way unsafe, you need to get local authorities involved. He will be held for a period of time while a plan is worked out, medications are evaluated, and new appointments can be made. As an outside observer, he sounds under-medicated!

These are just my observations from what I've read. I haven't finished my coffee yet this morning!

JenMikell Wrote:
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> I get that having him go voluntarily is ideal, but
> it sounds like that may not be an option. You
> told us that he said he has Schizophrenia.
> Someone in this thread compared your roomie to
> Robin WIlliams, Mr. Williams, from what I
> understand, had a mood disorder and substance
> abuse issues, Schizophrenia is a psychotic
> disorder. Again, if you are feeling in any way
> unsafe, you need to get local authorities
> involved. He will be held for a period of time
> while a plan is worked out, medications are
> evaluated, and new appointments can be made. As
> an outside observer, he sounds under-medicated!
>
> These are just my observations from what I've
> read. I haven't finished my coffee yet this
> morning!

The weird part about the whole robin williams thing is he mentioned he felt connected to him in some way and felt responsible for his death. He told him the wrong thing when he came to him in a dream for help and then robin williams killed himself. That is why it is so weird that you guys mentioned robin williams because he does too. He's been texting me where i am at like he is my wife or something right now. I need him for financial purposes right now so i need to know how to deal with him. I have been around schizos in the past so i have a little experience with people like this. He is 42 and i can not make him do anything.

YOU can't make him do anything, but if you feel like he's a danger to himself or you, call the police. THEY can do something.

Jane Cannary Wrote:
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> YOU can't make him do anything, but if you feel
> like he's a danger to himself or you, call the
> police. THEY can do something.

I don't think he is a danger, he just needs some calming medication or something. He said he took CBD oil in the past. Him pacing back and forth yesterday was driving me up the wall though and made me wonder what the hell is going on inside this guy's brain to make him pace back and forth and talk and talk and talk about many different subjects in a short amount of time. I really just think he needs like one good calming med and i am definitely going to talk to him about it again today if he starts pacing again.

Do you think it’s related to his “ visitors “ from church that you mentioned on an earlier post? I’m wondering if they triggered something on their visit by mentioning something, or if he called them over in his seemingly manic mood, and they were trying to help him.
Hopefully, they wouldn’t of left him in that state of mind, if he was like that then.
Was he like this before their visit?

Hockeyrat Wrote:
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> Do you think it’s related to his “ visitors
> “ from church that you mentioned on an earlier
> post? I’m wondering if they triggered something
> on their visit by mentioning something, or if he
> called them over in his seemingly manic mood, and
> they were trying to help him.
> Hopefully, they wouldn’t of left him in that
> state of mind, if he was like that then.
> Was he like this before their visit?

Well he lost half of his friends recently for talking about their secrets behind their back and they found out. And this affected him greatly. He over obsesses about certain girls that want nothing to do with him as well. His drama in the last month has been insane. And i have just been his sounding board basically and i don't want to know all this stuff he is telling me but he says he can't help himself from blabbing everyone's business. I have never seen anything like this before. I have had hyper friends before but not like this, this guy has no self control. And he cuts me down to my face. If i didn't need the financial help right now he would be long gone.

Schizophrenia changes things. You’re talking about some potentially scary stuff if it gets out of hand. I wouldn’t have any sharp things around him , things like that.Hopefully , he doesn’t start imagining that you’re doing stuff that you’re not.
You might not be able to get rid of him , if you wanted to.
Hope you go by your instincts and do what others on here are telling you to do. A 3 day hold sounds good if things don’t improve.
No amount of money is worth it if something happens

Hockeyrat Wrote:
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> Schizophrenia changes things. You’re talking
> about some potentially scary stuff if it gets out
> of hand. I wouldn’t have any sharp things around
> him , things like that.Hopefully , he doesn’t
> start imagining that you’re doing stuff that
> you’re not.
> You might not be able to get rid of him , if you
> wanted to.
> Hope you go by your instincts and do what others
> on here are telling you to do. A 3 day hold sounds
> good if things don’t improve.
> No amount of money is worth it if something
> happens

Schizophrenia is definitely some scary stuff. I have been around people with it before and i understand it a little bit. He says he has had things mostly under control for a while but it definitely does not seem that way. His pacing and constant talking makes me anxious and nervous. I am just trying to focus on healing from surgery the best i can but he is not making it easy.

Good luck to both of you.

I remember seeing a performance by comic Robin Williams many years ago, and he was like that -- very manic. He paced the stage, talked rapid fire, and jumped from topic to topic. He was very funny, but it was exhausting just watching him.

Williams had substance abuse issues at the time (I have to admit, that's the first thing I thought of regarding your roommate. Would it be possible?) Williams was also later diagnosed with Lewy Body Dementia, which has wide-ranging symptoms including paranoia, delusions, and severe insomnia.

Does your roommate ever come down from his manic high, or is he this way all the time? If you are able, explain to him that you can see him in a way that he, himself can't. Tell him that for the sake of his health, he needs a full, current medical workup.

I would also just be honest with him. Tell him that you like him, but that energy-wise it is tough for you to keep up with him and that you need your alone time. Then retreat to your room whenever you need to for some peace and quiet.

summer Wrote:
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> I remember seeing a performance by comic Robin
> Williams many years ago, and he was like that --
> very manic. He paced the stage, talked rapid fire,
> and jumped from topic to topic. He was very funny,
> but it was exhausting just watching him.
>
> Williams had substance abuse issues at the time (I
> have to admit, that's the first thing I thought of
> regarding your roommate. Would it be possible?)
> Williams was also later diagnosed with Lewy Body
> Dementia, which has wide-ranging symptoms
> including paranoia, delusions, and severe
> insomnia.
>
> Does your roommate ever come down from his manic
> high, or is he this way all the time? If you are
> able, explain to him that you can see him in a way
> that he, himself can't. Tell him that for the sake
> of his health, he needs a full, current medical
> workup.
>
> I would also just be honest with him. Tell him
> that you like him, but that energy-wise it is
> tough for you to keep up with him and that you
> need your alone time. Then retreat to your room
> whenever you need to for some peace and quiet.

He is VERY exhausting to be around. He is at a friend's house right now amd i am like ok he is their problem right now. Like he is some problem child or something haha. He rarely ever comes down, he is always in a manic high almost to a scary point. He just does not stop talking, nobody can get a word in around him. He definitely does not see himself like i do. He thinks i am more flawed than he is because i don't talk as much as him and am not as chipper but being chipper all the time is not normal. He is in his own world or something. It's weird that ME the crazy badass is doing a psychological evaluation on someone. I have just been evaluated so much i almost know what a real human being should be like haha. I know my upbringing was far from normal so figuring out what is normal is just something i do these days because i want to be totally sane and feel normal most of the time.

I think it's the 'end times' when i am doing psych evals on people, just sayin.

Is there any possibility that he might be doing illicit drugs as well as the Dr. prescribed ones? The symptoms you mention sound similar to someone using meth. He probably isn't but I've known meth addicts and they always hide their use from those who don't approve.

I have had similar experiences as you with roommates many years ago. I had to get cops to evict a roommate. He came back later with a big friend of his and threatened to kill me. He later broke in while I was at work and trashed the house and stole anything I had of worth. Be careful how you deal with this Adam and keep us posted.

Felix Wrote:
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> Is there any possibility that he might be doing
> illicit drugs as well as the Dr. prescribed ones?
> The symptoms you mention sound similar to someone
> using meth. He probably isn't but I've known meth
> addicts and they always hide their use from those
> who don't approve.
>
> I have had similar experiences as you with
> roommates many years ago. I had to get cops to
> evict a roommate. He came back later with a big
> friend of his and threatened to kill me. He later
> broke in while I was at work and trashed the house
> and stole anything I had of worth. Be careful how
> you deal with this Adam and keep us posted.

Well meth is pretty big in this town. He says he only did pot back in the day. He does kind of act like an addict of some kind with the pacing back and forth constantly and non-stop talking. If he does do meth he hides it very well. This could end in disaster and he has only lived here a few weeks. He is already driving me nuts and that is not a good sign. He lived with his parents for 12 years before moving in and that is insane in it of itself. I do need him for financial purposes but i don't know how long i can stand his non-stop talking and gossiping about other people. It's like i am living with a 15 year old or something. He even cuts me down to my face and tries to critique me. I am recovering from surgery for hell's sakes. God almighty hopefully i will only need him here for a few months until i am working more.

Sounds like the Mormon who almost beat me to death.
Hope it's not him. He is a predator.

siobhan Wrote:
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> Sounds like the Mormon who almost beat me to
> death.
> Hope it's not him. He is a predator.

Jesus now i am afraid to go to sleep. All he has to do is listen to the voices that constantly barage him and i'm toast. He seemed like an ok dude at first but the more i learn about him the more i realize he may be beyond the crazy level.

We just watched a very funny movie and he did not laugh one time. I was laughing by myself. Something is just off about my roommate. I don't like that he doesn't laugh at funny stuff. That really bothers me for some reason.

Maybe he is more worried about you, than you are about him.

If both of you are wound pretty tight, you could be making each other tense.

Amyjo Wrote:
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> Maybe he is more worried about you, than you are
> about him.
>
> If both of you are wound pretty tight, you could
> be making each other tense.

Probably, he didn't tell me he was crazy until after he was all moved in but at least he is helping in real life financially which is super rare. I haven't gotten anyone to help in real life for long time even facing homelessness. A crazy person helps me instead of real people, go figure. If the voices tell him to take me out so be it, i am at peace with it.

So you have indicated that you have a roommate who is likely to inflict bodily harm or kill you because of hallucenations or drug use and you desperately begging for help. Many kind people responded and gave you instructions on how to get the guy out of there and get him evaluated and treated. As usual you have taken up others time and have ignored their ideas won't even make one single phone call but continue to whine and complain. You alarmed others then sit back and enjoy the attention at the expense of others.

Samburg Wrote:
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> So you have indicated that you have a roommate who
> is likely to inflict bodily harm or kill you
> because of hallucenations or drug use and you
> desperately begging for help. Many kind people
> responded and gave you instructions on how to get
> the guy out of there and get him evaluated and
> treated. As usual you have taken up others time
> and have ignored their ideas won't even make one
> single phone call but continue to whine and
> complain. You alarmed others then sit back and
> enjoy the attention at the expense of others.

Never said he was going to harm me he was having weird behavior and i thought he needed ritalin. Plus although he is crazy he has helped me more financially than anyone in five years. Like i am really going to kick out the only person to really help me in real life in 5 years. Not bark at me from a recovery board about whining. Real life financial help is hard to come by. Strangers on a recovery board don't really step up in real life so it's hard to kick him out. So keep typing and thinking it'll help someone, which it doesn't. One crazy person has helped more than you have, congratulations.

It's called, "having a roommate." I did it for a dozen years after college. It's a great way to keep your living expenses down, but it can certainly have some negatives.

In my experience, 25% of roommates are great, 50% are tolerable, and 25% will make your life miserable. Generally the older you get the worse the roommates get, because most single people have their own apartments by then.

summer Wrote:
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> It's called, "having a roommate." I did it for a
> dozen years after college. It's a great way to
> keep your living expenses down, but it can
> certainly have some negatives.
>
> In my experience, 25% of roommates are great, 50%
> are tolerable, and 25% will make your life
> miserable. Generally the older you get the worse
> the roommates get, because most single people have
> their own apartments by then.

I am not used to living with someone either. I lived alone for three and a half years and this is a hard adjustment with someone else in the house.

Adam, read back. You said, among other things, that you are not sure you are safe and that you are afraid to go to sleep. I read one post (can't see it now) that stated you are resigned to this new roommate harming you, or words to that effect. So it's not out of line for a reader here to get the impression that you are saying that you may be in danger. That's why posters, professionals amongst them, have given the advice they have - to call for professional help. This sounds like something you can't handle yourself. Besides that, it seems like the last thing you need is somebody else's psych problems in your environment.

As for "strangers on a discussion board" not "step[ping] up in real life", well, sometimes they do, but that is not the major reason we're here. So I wouldn't expect that or ask it of fellow posters. So that is an invalid criticism, imho.

As far as anybody here can do, due to the nature of this board and time, distance, and everybody having their own lives to work out, many give you much. You get as much, and way more, support, advice, time, best wishes, as I have ever seen any other person receive, no matter what their problems and needs are, including grief, illness, pain, psych issues, confusion, estrangement, regret and appalling loss.

It would be good to see some acknowledgement from you of the many people who have stepped up regularly and frequently to give their best insights and advice regarding your ongoing multitude of issues. It's difficult for hurting people to reach out and assist others; sometimes they have to save all their energy to help themselves. But they do it here day after day after day after day, notably often for your sake. It bites to get the impression that you take it for granted, or worse, don't appreciate it, an impression formed by how often you have disparaged RfM and all its posters (with one notable exception). A few times you get a less than 100% positive reply. That's no reason to go off on everybody. It's already hard to reach out to a stranger, especially when you're in need yourself, as I already said. It's even tougher when you bite back like a wounded animal. People here don't deserve that.

I'm not commenting on this thread in particular, just relating my general observations from your time here. Re the comment you are replying to (by calling us all "strangers on a discussion board" who, as you mention all too often, don't do enough for you) so it's a sharp remark. One out of dozens of supportive replies in all your threads. It happens sometimes. Can you try to let go of that broad brush you use to paint everybody with the same colour? It may sound simplistic but really, changing your perspective (by avoiding generalizations) could perhaps go some way to helping you see things in a more positive light.

As for all the "strangers" on this board, I see many thoughtful, compassionate, experienced people who reach out to others regularly and who are overflowing with excellent advice. You could do worse than to try to employ some of it. Make a call. Take a break. Try something different. Approach the right resources. Something. Anything. To try to solve things, if only one problem at a time. When things are piling up and you feel overwhelmed, make a list of all your issues that need solutions. Then prioritize them. Tackle one at a time, most urgent first (in your case, perhaps your living arrangements and your medical and psych status). Don't take on a major problem to try and solve a more minor one (i.e. if new roomie is going to make things worse in your environment, which will hold you back, got to get rid and solve the financial woes in a different way - maybe as relatively simple as finding a less complex roommate for a time).

I'm not saying it's easy. But a methodical approach could help. One problem at a time (or the first few major ones on the list; whatever is urgent in your world).

And yeah, this is a "discussion board". About being exmo. It cannot take the place, as we've said several times, of real life professional help when warranted.

And if you ask for advice, try taking some of it. People have experience and good ideas. And they give you a gift every time you post. They answer you. In droves. Ongoing. Don't knock it.



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Nightingale Wrote:
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> Adam, read back. You said, among other things,
> that you are not sure you are safe and that you
> are afraid to go to sleep. I read one post (can't
> see it now) that stated you are resigned to this
> new roommate harming you, or words to that effect.
> So it's not out of line for a reader here to get
> the impression that you are saying that you may be
> in danger. That's why posters, professionals
> amongst them, have given the advice they have - to
> call for professional help. This sounds like
> something you can't handle yourself. Besides that,
> it seems like the last thing you need is somebody
> else's psych problems in your environment.
>
> As for "strangers on a discussion board" not "step
> up in real life", well, sometimes they do, but
> that is not the major reason we're here. So I
> wouldn't expect that or ask it of fellow posters.
> So that is an invalid criticism, imho.
>
> As far as anybody here can do, due to the nature
> of this board and time, distance, and everybody
> having their own lives to work out, many give you
> much. You get as much, and way more, support,
> advice, time, best wishes, as I have ever seen any
> other person receive, no matter what their
> problems and needs are, including grief, illness,
> pain, psych issues, confusion, estrangement,
> regret and appalling loss.
>
> It would be good to see some acknowledgement from
> you of the many people who have stepped up
> regularly and frequently to give their best
> insights and advice regarding your ongoing
> multitude of issues. It's difficult for hurting
> people to reach out and assist others; sometimes
> they have to save all their energy to help
> themselves. But they do it here day after day
> after day after day, notably often for your sake.
> It bites to get the impression that you take it
> for granted, or worse, don't appreciate it, an
> impression formed by how often you have disparaged
> RfM and all its posters (with one notable
> exception). A few times you get a less than 100%
> positive reply. That's no reason to go off on
> everybody. It's already hard to reach out to a
> stranger, especially when you're in need yourself,
> as I already said. It's even tougher when you bite
> back like a wounded animal. People here don't
> deserve that.
>
> I'm not commenting on this thread in particular,
> just relating my general observations from your
> time here. Re the comment you are replying to (by
> calling us all "strangers on a discussion board"
> who, as you mention all too often, don't do enough
> for you) so it's a sharp remark. One out of dozens
> of supportive replies in all your threads. It
> happens sometimes. Can you try to let go of that
> broad brush you use to paint everybody with the
> same colour? It may sound simplistic but really,
> changing your perspective (by avoiding
> generalizations) could perhaps go some way to
> helping you see things in a more positive light.
>
> As for all the "strangers" on this board, I see
> many thoughtful, compassionate, experienced people
> who reach out to others regularly and who are
> overflowing with excellent advice. You could do
> worse than to try to employ some of it. Make a
> call. Take a break. Try something different.
> Approach the right resources. Something. Anything.
> To try to solve things, if only one problem at a
> time. When things are piling up and you feel
> overwhelmed, make a list of all your issues that
> need solutions. Then prioritize them. Tackle one
> at a time, most urgent first (in your case,
> perhaps your living arrangements and your medical
> and psych status). Don't take on a major problem
> to try and solve a more minor one (i.e. if new
> roomie is going to make things worse in your
> environment, which will hold you back, got to get
> rid and solve the financial woes in a different
> way - maybe as relatively simple as finding a less
> complex roommate for a time).
>
> I'm not saying it's simple. But a methodical
> approach could help. One problem at a time (or the
> first few major ones on the list; whatever is
> urgent in your world).
>
> And yeah, This is a "discussion board". About
> being exmo. It cannot take the place, as we've
> said several times, of real life professional help
> when warranted.
>
> And if you ask for advice, try taking some of it.
> People have experience and good ideas. And they
> give you a gift every time you post. They answer
> you. In droves. Ongoing. Don't knock it.

Not sure what decision to make right now. I don't exactly have a financial solution if he leaves. But i don't like that i am the more mentally sound one between him and i. I am pretty sound comparatively to my past self but he kind of rattles me a little bit as far as his lack of self control. I will try to push him a little bit to try and see his psychiatrist and tell him about his lack of mental control and insanely high energy level. The guy is saving me from homelessness for right now because i haven't been able to work quite yet.

On behalf of everyone who is part of this community, and who has been acknowledged in your beautiful post, Nightingale...

Thank you, Nightingale!!

We (each one of us, I am certain I can say) appreciate you!

I second that. I have to admit, after all of us being called Garbage people and having one of our beloved posters here targeted by Adam, I've given up trying to help. It seems like it's not what he wants.

Devoted Exmo Wrote:
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> I second that. I have to admit, after all of us
> being called Garbage people and having one of our
> beloved posters here targeted by Adam, I've given
> up trying to help. It seems like it's not what he
> wants.

Real friends are hard to find for sure. Even my counselor thinks its over. I took too much damage like i assumed. But i did give it a shot for a solid few years to repair.

Thank you, Nightingale. I appreciate your kind words.

Does he laugh at other funny movies or shows? Maybe he tired himself out finally, by all that talking and pacing around.
My husband and I have different senses of humour.Most of the movies that he thinks are funny, I don’t and VV.
Did he actually sit through the whole movie, without talking or getting up?
Maybe you found something to put on that’ll sedate him.
That can seem creepy though, if he never laughs at anything ( funny stuff , not crazy , scary laughing)

He may just have some serious issues he's dealing with himself, separate from Adam's.

Maybe he doesn't like his living arrangement either. And they're both stuck due to finances.

They were watching at 2 in the morning. He could've been very tired, and might've been better off sleeping. I can see that if they both aren't working staying up really late watching movies is an option. But some people are not night owls.

Yeah, does he have his own bedroom too, or does he sleep on the couch, after you go to bed?
Maybe, he was just fighting to stay up and was more like a zombie, trying to fight , falling asleep on you.

Maybe you could help him find a hobby. Something to keep his hands busy.

Can you call his parents? Maybe they can help you deal with him, or give you a heads up on what to expect. If things get out of hand, maybe you can ask your psyche how to deal with him. I know you need him financially but as soon as you can you need to get out of this situation.

Badassadam1 Wrote:
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> the place mentally jumping from subject to subject
> and pacing constantly. This guy needs something
> holy fuck his pacing and talking is driving me
> bonkers.

Brother Badass,

Step away from the mirror. He will leave the room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RVgLlrI4U4