siobhan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Don't. It's a fundamental survival skill.
There has to be a way to beat this fear. I can't shut down in any public place just because I come across a guy in a suit. I do always assume they are in a dishonest profession right off the bat. And I am like a scared deer caught in the headlights if they get close to me or walk by me. But if they touch me I am not sure what my reaction will be, a ravenous dog response or something?
I worked for Aramark for a while and watched the obnoxious regional manager scream at the dishroom guys "Hey! Watch where you're splashing water. This is a $3,000 suit I'm wearing!"
That kind of sh#t pisses me off. Feel like I've been forced to be around these dickbags for most of my life. I was born in the cult of men in suits that were dickbags. Of all the operations I had to be born in the worst one probably.
No doubt, the worst. WAY worse than being a child soldier in africa, or a child sex slave, or a child sweatshop worker, or the millions of children in abject poverty who will die of hunger or preventable disease.
Unlike those kids, you had to undergo a truly horrific childhood of reading fairy tales and singing songs and eating small pieces of bread once a week.
I bet you wish you could have traded places with any of those other kids. Make THEM look at men in suits so you can look at men shooting machine guns in your direction.
quidprostatusquo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No doubt, the worst. WAY worse than being a child > soldier in africa, or a child sex slave, or a > child sweatshop worker, or the millions of > children in abject poverty who will die of hunger > or preventable disease. > > Unlike those kids, you had to undergo a truly > horrific childhood of reading fairy tales and > singing songs and eating small pieces of bread > once a week. > > I bet you wish you could have traded places with > any of those other kids. Make THEM look at men in > suits so you can look at men shooting machine guns > in your direction.
A church leader tried to kill me when I was a kid you dumbf#ck. I am not here because of bills#t primary songs. I swear to god you are a mormon still.
He got away with it, I was a kid in a cult that had real power over me. Didn't know it was a cult back then though. A 13 year old going to the police in a cult town against a church leader. It wasn't even an option.
The worst part is I just recently found out he's still alive through facebook and I am not even strong enough to make the road trip. How sad is that? Can't die or get revenge.
quidprostatusquo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When you say a grown man tried to kill you, what > exactly does that mean? Please provide details.
A man about my fathers age but bigger. No hair. I could give you his name but I know the board will erase it. First name is Brent.
I have that impulse. It's a distrust based on experience with Mormon men. I don't even own a suit. To me, it represents fraud and gaslighting--the handshake in the foyer after a meeting--absolute insincerity.
Maybe it was two years of forced "suit" attire selling a cult in Europe that did it to me, maybe it wasn't...
But I can't stand suits. I think of it as a somewhat silly costume people put on -- like Halloween every day, or wardrobe for a play. I'm not afraid of 'em -- just think they're ridiculous.
So I went into businesses where you didn't have to wear suits. I'm still in one. I can't tell you the number of multi-million dollar deals I've closed in jeans & tennis shoes. Don't need the costume. :)
ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe it was two years of forced "suit" attire > selling a cult in Europe that did it to me, maybe > it wasn't... > > But I can't stand suits. I think of it as a > somewhat silly costume people put on -- like > Halloween every day, or wardrobe for a play. I'm > not afraid of 'em -- just think they're > ridiculous. > > So I went into businesses where you didn't have to > wear suits. I'm still in one. I can't tell you > the number of multi-million dollar deals I've > closed in jeans & tennis shoes. Don't need the > costume. :)
And this is why hie is the best man to lead this country into a new age.
Costume.....that says it all Hie... great description. I do own one and the last time I wore one I went to a visitation after the father of a long time friend passed. Interestingly less men in suites or even sport coats. Mostly casual attire here in the Bible Belt...I admit to never and I mean never wearing a suite when I was in a bishopric. Sport coat, Levi’s and blue shirts. Guess that is why I was released after two years
Zactly, my senses get heightened big time when a guy in a suit is around. I'm like an animal in full defense fight or flight mode. I think they are going to try to do something to screw me over in some way.
anono this week Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the problem with suits is that you sweat a lot! > They are uncomfortable. especially the ties. I > haven't worn any of that in years, thankfully.
Yes!! The sweating was absolutely horrible and the ties were uncomfortable as he'll, you are giving me some bad flashbacks right now.
I guess I’m the only one who loves men in suits( no bow ties though). Of course, I’m female, so never had to wear one. I just grew up military, and my husband was military and I loved the military dress uniforms. I also think of sports stars and their suits they wear before and after the games and the hockey announcers. Most wear pretty colored neck ties with a hanky in their jacket pocket that matches their tie. If it’s certain churches, then I agree, it’s different. It looks phony ( depending on who the person is)