...this is actually old news, but still damn scary. The operational theory behind (Status Six), or Kanyon, was it's ability to create a huge radioactive psunami wave-action against East coast port cities. The drone was designed to bury and hibernate itself into the seabed off the US East coast and remain dormant until called upon to detonate. In addition, these drones were also intended to quietly reside in some of the deeper Atlantic seismically-active trenches, which could then trigger plate shifts. If/when detonated, huge swaths of the East coast now becomes uninhabitable. Worse than Mormonism...............well.....you be the judge.




https://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-reveals-new-sub-carrying-nuclear-tipped-drone/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System

I think the US military is prepared. The wiki quote from your link is this does not change the strategic balance.



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...really? This is not a game changer?................

ConcernedCitizen 2.0 Wrote:
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> ...really? This is not a game changer?................

We have equal or greater retaliatory power. They can’t hide this and make it seem like a natural occurrence, the seismic signature of nuclear weapons is very different.

...I first heard of this several years ago from a US nuke sub XO friend. Yes, they are aware of it, and yes, it's a wild card for sure. He said the real danger lies in it's ability to go dormant, and recalled back into service. I also read a report by a Soviet naval official who did admit one scenario of deep-trench placement. A possible seismic disaster coupled with a flood of radioactive ocean water if it were ever used. The Russians have at last count at least 3 versions of our old "Glomar Explorer" which could ferry these around to the areas needed, eliminating most of the battery/propulsion issues mentioned. Photos and reports of these mother ships off the east coast cities and naval facilities has raised some additional concern. It is pretty common to see foreign "trawlers and merchant class" vessels just outside US waters...with electronic arrays clearly visible.

...I can't imagine the Russians even caring to hide the seismic signature in the event of a Defcon 1 situation.

Kool

Better article.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/just-how-much-threat-russias-status-6-nuclear-torpedo-24094

It's probably far scarier to be a Russian.

You're flanked by U.S.-led NATO to the West and China/U.S. Pacific Fleet to the East. You lack any defendable borders such as oceans and mountain ranges. Your population is shrinking, putting a strain on your ability to patrol your vast landmass. Also, a long history of being invaded and nearly exterminated as a nation and people (Mongols, Napoleon, Hitler).

I once marvelled how one side of the American political coin successfully created mass-fear of "pyjama wearing men living in caves".

But I might even be more impressed with the other side of that coin successfully resurrecting The Cold War and all the attending tropes, with the addition of a pee-pee tape, of course.

Isn't it marvellous?

Human

But religious zealots with towels on their heads ARE scary. If only someone could give them a Book of Mormon.

Americans are pre-disposed to freak out and exaggerate everything. And it's not necessary our faults.

Not a single American alive, nor their parents or grandparents, ever faced a national "near extinction" event anywhere close to the level that the majority of the rest of the world has faced. No civil war, no invading armies, no famine. It's generally speaking been great for the dominant racial and social classes since the Civil War and it's been empire America every since WW2.

Because of this, we go ballistic and cry Chicken Little whenever something appears that could challenge that supremacy.

Not to say this is necessarily bad. When a resource-poor island lunched a limited strike against a far-flung military outpost, we mobilized the industrial might to reshape the global order and prevent a future world war. When a poor, economically disadvantaged, landlocked nation lobbed a steel basketball into the sky, we built the national highway system, revamped public education, and put a man on the moon.

Sometimes it hasn't been good. When the fear of different economic models appeared to gain traction in Southeast Asia, we contributed to the mass killing of millions of poor farmers. When some radicalized Saudis decided to slip past airport security, we set the entire Middle East ablaze.

We really need to just chill out.

It's really no different than when religious Cristians see gays marrying and the Church pews emptying. They flip out, mobilize, declare that the world is going to south fast, and often bring about more suffering.

Do you ever wonder what special weapons and gadgets the U.S. military has positioned and pointed at the other guys?

The US spends more on its military than the next ten top spenders combined.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

I don't think we have too much to worry about.



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> Do you ever wonder what special weapons and
> gadgets the U.S. military has positioned and
> pointed at the other guys?
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> The US spends more on its military than the next
> ten top spenders combined.
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> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_
> by_military_expenditures
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> I don't think we have too much to worry about.

Oh, I think you do. By the time those weapons get used by the US, the human race may already be headed to extinction and I will blame the Americans as much for that as the Russians, Chiness etc.

Keeping the world dangerous makes $$$s for some people, but one day they'll go too far. Amazed it hasn't happened already.

For everything. Internet trolls. Must be Russia. Domestic political problems in US. Must be Russia. England becomes xenophobic and runs away from EU. Must be Russia. Far right. Russia. Far left. Russia. Greenies. Russia.

If the military industrial complex could spend one day without shilling for money by blaming Russia for everything or trying to "prod the Bear", the world would be a better place.

The sad thing is that the LDS has encouraged this brinksmanship in the past and it may destroy the human race.

Do you ever read the Russian press? They spend a LOT more time fussing about the U.S. than we will ever spend thinking about Russia. I want to tell the Russians, "Seriously, we don't care." There is a lot of paranoia there.

Back in the 70s the threat was soviet freighters loaded with certain chemicals around a nuclear weapon. The ship sinks off shore and is later detonated.

Simular scenario, missing railroad box cars that have nuclear weapons inside and are positioned in strategic cities, all detonated remotely.

Add to it the sleeper agents (maybe your next door neighbor or bishop!) with vials of biological weapons and you get an idea of the nightmare of 50 years ago.