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Posted by: PtLoma ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:28PM

Teddy Roosevelt: “No amount of charity in spending such fortunes can compensate in any way for the misconduct in acquiring them,” Theodore Roosevelt said after John D. Rockefeller proposed starting a foundation in 1909.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/opinion/sunday/met-sackler.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

David O McKay: “No other success can compensate for failure in the home”

https://www.lds.org/church/news/conference-moment-president-david-o-mckays-timeless-conference-message?lang=eng

I know McKay was old, but he wasn't a GA in 1909...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2019 03:41PM by PtLoma.

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Posted by: Screen Name ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:39PM

“Where performance is measured, performance improves. Where performance is measured and reported back, the rate of improvement accelerates.”

- Thomas S. Monson

The original quote was in a book of addresses to Parliament by Lord Kelvin, well over a century earlier. Variations on it later appear in books by Roger W. Babson, Andrew Carnegie and W. Edwards Deming.

The LDS church has literally stolen the honor by never once citing the origin or evolution of the maxim.

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Posted by: PtLoma ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:40PM


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Posted by: PtLoma ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:42PM

+1000

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Posted by: lurking in ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:49PM

"No success in public life can compensate for failure in the home." – Benjamin Disraeli

http://famousquotefrom.com/benjamin-disraeli/

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Posted by: PtLoma ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 03:51PM

OMG even more egregiously plagiarized!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 05:36PM

That one, in my mind, is the most egregious particularly coming from a man who dominated British politics and was far busier than a Mormon prophet from Huntsville.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 04:30PM

"What e'er thou art, act well thy part."

Used by David Uh-Oh McKay to encourage mormons to fake it til they make it. Actually very good advice, generally speaking.

He did admit copying it from an inscription on a Scottish building while on his mission, thinking that it was probably from Shakespeare. But that explanation/admission is generally not known.

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Posted by: weekend logout ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 04:37PM


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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 05:06PM

One would think that having a weekly face-to-face conference with the Lord, the profit would get some original quotes that would inspire and amaze the masses.

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Posted by: OneWayJay ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 07:39PM

It is possible there is no copying involved at all.
Similar statements come out all the time in many ways. A lot of what is said by one has been said before by another.

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: May 19, 2019 07:49PM

Doesn't mean he didn't do harm. He was a liar and it looks like plagiarism might be another fault. I don't like that he refused to make any attempt to stop polygamy abuses but rather, he simply added another question for temple interviews and told the feds mormons would stamp out polygamy by this tactic. It didn't work, but he got away with it and the victims of polygamy groups has not dwindled.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: May 20, 2019 07:22AM

The only common element in the two statements is the use of the word "compensate."

Roosevelt was speaking of John D. Rockefeller's founding and ownership of Standard Oil; TR was known as the "trust buster." Rockefeller's phillanthropy later in his life is well-documented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil

>>In 1896, John Rockefeller retired from the Standard Oil Co. of New Jersey, the holding company of the group, but remained president and a major shareholder. Vice-president John Dustin Archbold took a large part in the running of the firm. In the year 1904, Standard Oil controlled 91% of oil production and 85% of final sales in the United States.[21] At this point in time, state and federal laws sought to counter this development with "antitrust" laws. In 1911, the U.S. Justice Department sued the group under the federal antitrust law and ordered its breakup into 34 companies.

Mckay's words spoke of the LDS belief in the importance of families and the necessity of adopting practices that contributed to their well-being.



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