and thought that being a god wasn't such a good idea?

An excellent story, originally from Rudyard Kipling, who did a lot of magnificent stuff.

The book is better than the movie, predictably, which is a bit awkward from today’s vantage.



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Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> An excellent story, originally from Rudyard
> Kipling, who did a lot of magnificent stuff.

A story that reminds us of the crazy career of King Brigham Young.

He went off like Kipling's friends to be King a Utah Kafiristan.

Like them, he wore a Freemasonic symbol on his tie-tack.

That Brotherhood enables men who would be kings.

Like them he was done in, this time, by arsenic in his tea.

I liked both. I thought the movie was an excellent adaptation of the original.

Brilliant film.

One of Connery's best. It is said that the two Brits had a riot filming Huston's masterpiece.

Thing was Cain's cockney accent which is inherently comical to the Scots. There were actually serial retakes throughout because Connery couldn't keep a straight face whenever Cain would deliver his lines.

A must see for the Masonic lore alone.

I am a huge Kipling fan. The Jungle Books alone are gorgeous; Kim, his poetry, his other short stories, etc., are wonderful. And his writing style, bending grammar and punctuation to vernacular speech patterns rather than vice versa: it gave a sense of spontaneity and wonder to his tales.

To think that he initially had trouble finding a publisher!

A popular quote incorrectly attributed to George Orwell: "People (sometimes, 'Gentle folk') sleep peaceably at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf" is more correctly sourced to Kipling than to Orwell.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/

It's a great site, if you're not familiar with it. I'm sure you will waste many a delightful hour there. Enjoy!

I do not know the website but I do know the quotation. If I recall correctly, he said it after his son died on the fields of World War One, when he was understandably growing bitter and sad. That was the period of "the white man's burden."

But I have not double-checked, and your quotation could conceivably have come from an earlier period in his life. Kipling had a realistic grasp of power politics.

It reminds me of what a dear friend and influential man once said to me under his breath. We were in a policy meeting with some younger and more idealistic people (as well as some grizzled veterans), and he whispered that "every American college student should be required to spend at least one year in a Third World country." He was of course correct, for reasons that Kipling, having long experience in India and especially witnessing the Mutiny, knew well.



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The point being that half of the sentiment (irrespective of the quotation) seems to come from Kipling, via various permutations, and Orwell provided the first part. Then, further alterations.

Regarding your friend's sentiments, I think every young person should spend a minimum two years engaged in some two of the following:

Farm work
Food service
Construction
Working on commission or for tips
The military or other national service

And no, an LDS mission would not count!

Where I'm from, caffiend, people have no choice but to do what you suggest.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> he whispered that "every American
> college student should be required to spend at
> least one year in a Third World country." He was
> of course correct,

A lot of them already do this kind of thing and they come back more narrow minded and condescending than ever. Some of them even go as LDS missionaries. Not only do they usually fail to understand the host country, they come back with a bit of a messiah complex.

In your grouping's po-mo gibberish this is what is known as the "white savior narrative".

At the end of the year, these people go back feeling like they've achieved something when in fact they've been engaged in voyeurism and poverty tourism, which does not help alleviate the long term problems of these countries and encourages a brain-drain of their brightest people.

> A lot of them already do this kind of thing and
> they come back more narrow minded and
> condescending than ever. Some of them even go as
> LDS missionaries. Not only do they usually fail to
> understand the host country, they come back with a
> bit of a messiah complex.

Imagine that: someone goes to all the trouble of going abroad and experiencing a foreign country and then comes back no wiser than a coward sitting in Alberta, Canada pontificating about countries and issues he doesn't even remotely comprehend.


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> In your grouping's po-mo gibberish this is what is
> known as the "white savior narrative".

What the fuck is that? What are you struggling to say?


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> At the end of the year, these people go back
> feeling like they've achieved something when in
> fact they've been engaged in voyeurism and poverty
> tourism, which does not help alleviate the long
> term problems of these countries and encourages a
> brain-drain of their brightest people.

You ever been outside of Alberta, Jordan? Outside of Alberta and Utah? Because once you wrote about living in Utah with your Latina wife; and then you reappear here talking about living in Canada and having never been married; and then you deny living in Canada even as you betray with your writing style that you are Canadian?

Who are you, Jordan? And why do you use sock puppets like the Canuck Exmo, the ironic LogicalCanuckExmo, and Hwint? What are you afraid of?



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I've never had a "Latina wife" since I've never been married. I have visited all the continents apart from South America and Antarctica. I have also lived abroad for extended periods.

Look up "white savior" please. For your own sake. It's a left wing ohrase. Africa doesn't need rich people partying in its misery and bedding the locals, it needs trade not aid. Aid solves nothing and most of it goes to the parasites who run many of the countries in Africa.

So go to Africa and tell the poor people there, "I'm so sorry, my heart bleeds for you." You'd be better setting up a factory with jobs there than another poverty porn resort.

Your posts reveal more about your character than you think.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> Your posts reveal more about your character than
> you think.

Look up "white savior". It is a phrase to describe the neo-colonialism you espouse.

Trade not aid!

You go, girl.

"rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf" ... OMG !!! It's altruistic socialism !!!

Sweden? Iceland? Norway? Finland? Japan?

Socialism is not a binary issue. All governments fit on a scale between state-control and complete lassez faire. We are discussing different points on that scale.

If we were to score governments on a scale of altruism, I believe several of the more socialist ones would score high.



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Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> Socialism is not a binary issue. All governments
> fit on a scale between state-control and complete
> lassez faire. We are discussing different points
> on that scale.
>
> If we were to score governments on a scale of
> altruism, I believe several of the more socialist
> ones would score high.

It seems odd for me to quote the BoM here, but it is curiously apposite to deep techniques.

2 Nephi 26 v. 22 "And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever."

A case of stopped clock syndrome here. There have been secret revolutionary organizations out there, and through entryism they have recruited allies. The KGB and its predecessors were also secret combos and used to recruit heavily on the right as well.

As well as an infiltration of people, there has been an infiltration of ideas, which have been mainstreamed. This technique has used an infiltration of academic institutiona to disseminate their ideas.

For "devil", read evil here. Communism has been the founder of murder. It is also leading humanity down with a flaxen cord when the iron fist will not do. In the case of Sweden, you have a civilized and prosperous country which has been brought to the edge of ruin, by flaxen cordage leading it ever furthed downwards, past mass euthanasia (a symptom of international socialism as well as national socialism (so called Nazism - lefties rarely use the full name for obvious reasons)), economic and social destabilization, hypersexualization of all layers of society without producing enough well supported offspring... Until the major cities are filled with people who cannot even speak Swedish, and who end up producing massive riots in a once peaceful country, and useful idiots like Greta Thunberg who promote violent revolution throughout Rurope. (I agree climate change is a thing, but she is being used for a far wider program)

This is what Khrushchev meant when he said he would bury the west without firing a shot. He also said small doses of socialism would be introduced gradually until the west woke up and found itself Communist. (It is falsely claimed by apologists that be never said any such thing, when in fact it was witnessed.)

> It seems odd for me to quote the BoM here, but it
> is curiously apposite to deep techniques.
>
> 2 Nephi 26 v. 22 "And there are also secret
> combinations, even as in times of old, according
> to the combinations of the devil, for he is the
> founder of all these things; yea, the founder of
> murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth
> them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he
> bindeth them with his strong cords forever."

Yeah, quoting the Book of Mormon. You have a fine mind, Jordan.



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> A case of stopped clock syndrome here. There have
> been secret revolutionary organizations out there,
> and through entryism they have recruited allies.
> The KGB and its predecessors were also secret
> combos and used to recruit heavily on the right as
> well.

Trotsky in the closet again.


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> As well as an infiltration of people, there has
> been an infiltration of ideas, which have been
> mainstreamed. This technique has used an
> infiltration of academic institutiona to
> disseminate their ideas.

Mantra.


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> For "devil", read evil here. Communism has been
> the founder of murder.

"The founder of murder?" That is some brilliant writing there.


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> In the case of Sweden, you have a
> civilized and prosperous country which has been
> brought to the edge of ruin, by flaxen cordage
> leading it ever furthed downwards, past mass
> euthanasia (a symptom of international socialism
> as well as national socialism (so called Nazism -
> lefties rarely use the full name for obvious
> reasons)), economic and social destabilization,
> hypersexualization of all layers of society
> without producing enough well supported
> offspring...

Let no one gainsay your ability to compose coherent English, Jordan. This is a paragraph--I mean a sentence--that will go down in history.

But "mass euthanasia" in Sweden? Can you explain for us when Sweden implemented "mass euthanasia?"

And "hypersexualization of society?" I guess she turned you down again last night.


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> Until the major cities are filled
> with people who cannot even speak Swedish, and who
> end up producing massive riots in a once peaceful
> country, and useful idiots like Greta Thunberg who
> promote violent revolution throughout Rurope. (I
> agree climate change is a thing, but she is being
> used for a far wider program)

Wow. I'm really worried for Rurope and the Ruropeans.


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> This is what Khrushchev meant when he said he
> would bury the west without firing a shot.

Well if Krushchev said it, it must be true. I mean, what is more universally true than the words of a dead dictator of a dead state? Disregarding his pompous statements would be as silly as ignoring what his contemporary, Ezra Taft Benson said and wrote.


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> He also
> said small doses of socialism would be introduced
> gradually until the west woke up and found itself
> Communist.

Now you have me trembling in my heels. Why don't you quote the Book of Mormon again? If you combined that holy book with the words of dead Soviets, no one could get the better of you in an argument.



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> (It is falsely claimed by apologists
> that be never said any such thing, when in fact it
> was witnessed.)

And that matters how?



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Suggest you look it up. All the Nordic Countries have been eliminating Down Syndrome by killing them off. Iceland is having a high auccess rate. Sweden was one of the earlier ones. They specialize in exterminating the elderly and other disabled as well. In fact they werw doing this before the rise of Hitler's socialism in the 1930s.

But your socialist paradise of Sweden specializes in the production of zoophilia material since bestiality is legal there. So two legs bad, four legs good as your favorite author says.

> But your socialist paradise of Sweden specializes
> in the production of zoophilia material. . .

How do you know that, Jordan?


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> since
> bestiality is legal there.

How on earth would you know that?


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> So two legs bad, four
> legs good as your favorite author says.

Are you suggesting that Orwell shared your sexual interests? I doubt that. He was happily married.

Scandinavia was notorious for the production of bestiality videos and magazines. If you visited there during the eighties you could see this material on plain view in store windows. It is the ultimate sign of social collapse and degeneracy that a market for such material exists, let alone is out in the open.

I know Sweden well and I have never seen anything like that in store windows. Perhaps you visit different parts of town than I do.

But why would beastiality that you claim to have seen in the 1980s still have such a prominent place in your mind? most people would consider it is a strange preoccupation.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> I know Sweden well and I have never seen anything
> like that in store windows. Perhaps you visit
> different parts of town than I do.
>
> But why would beastiality that you claim to have
> seen in the 1980s still have such a prominent
> place in your mind? most people would consider it
> is a strange preoccupation.

I beg your pardon. Turns out bestiality was made illegal in 2014, a massive five years ago. Presumably the focus is more on exterminating the general population.

London Times (November 2008) -

"Sweden, though, has not taken a religion-based stance. Rather, it seems to accept the idea that sex with animals can be in some way consensual. If it causes injury to the animal it can be prosecuted, although in practice only two out of the 115 cases registered have ever been investigated."

Swedish Animal Welfare Agency -
"The Swedish Animal Welfare Agency collected its information based on responses received from 1,600 questionnaires sent to veterinarians, animal welfare inspectors and police agencies across the country. In the period 2000 to 2004, 119 cases of bestiality were documented, compared to just three known cases in the 1970s, 17 in the 1980s and 70 in the 1990s"

You need help.

Out of all the times we've asked him to back up his claims, this is what he chooses to research and provide stats for.

I'm glad I have never known anyone with his preoccupation.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> I'm glad I have never known anyone with his
> preoccupation.

Not so keen on diversity anymore are you?

It was/is legal in several parts of the United States very recently including Washington State. Which says a great deal about the civilizational level of the USA. The Nordic Countries legalized it after WWII which sped up the collapse of their societies.

So favoring diversity requires favoring bestiality?

No, Jordan, I do not share your proclivities.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> You need help.

No, I think anyone who is deluded enough to think Sweden is some kind of paradise is a better candidate. The best thing about Sweden, apart from the good looking natives, is that it has low population density, which allows you to get away from social engineering programs and societal collapse.

You should have opted for your career in professional athletics. Your life might have turned out better if you relied on brawn.

Those who protest socialism the most are the ones who profit from it the most.

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> Those who protest socialism the most are the ones
> who profit from it the most.

Like who? The victims of prison camps like Solzhenitsyn? Those persecuted for being religious like monks of Tibet? They obviously profit from it, right?

Socialist policies have exploited me when I have worked hard and made money, and are now promoting racist and sexist indoctrination through the school system against people who happen to be born looking like I do.

The only thing the state has done for me personally is give me school time until adulthood. I learned far more from books than I ever did from school teaching which was more about inculcating obedience to the authorities and the state.

> Socialist policies have exploited me when I have
> worked hard and made money, and are now promoting
> racist and sexist indoctrination through the
> school system against people who happen to be born
> looking like I do.

Here's the key to Jordan and his thinking. He is a bitter old man who thinks the world has denied him what he deserves. He's a victim.



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Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> > Socialist policies have exploited me when I
> have
> > worked hard and made money, and are now
> promoting
> > racist and sexist indoctrination through the
> > school system against people who happen to be
> born
> > looking like I do.
>
> Here's the key to Jordan and his thinking. He is
> a bitter old man who thinks the world has denied
> him what he deserves. He's a victim.

No, my dear. I'm a success. My business does well enough for me to turn a healthy profit to live off, I'm in a stable relationship and I have risen far beyond my humble origins. I went as far as I wanted to in sports without going professional etc etc.

What I don't like are people who condemn me for my birth characteristics and hard work, and then try and pretend to be for ordinary people. I have gotten where I have in spite of parasites not because of them. There was no "male" or "white" privilege for me. I was born fighting and have reached where I have through my own efforts. I have been forced to give away most of the fruits of my labor but I thrive in spite of that.

> No, my dear. I'm a success. My business does well
> enough for me to turn a healthy profit to live
> off, I'm in a stable relationship and I have risen
> far beyond my humble origins. I went as far as I
> wanted to in sports without going professional etc
> etc.

You don't need to defend yourself. We know how successful you are in business, finance, romance, and sports "without going professional."


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> What I don't like are people who condemn me for my
> birth characteristics and hard work, and then try
> and pretend to be for ordinary people. I have
> gotten where I have in spite of parasites not
> because of them. There was no "male" or "white"
> privilege for me. I was born fighting and have
> reached where I have through my own efforts. I
> have been forced to give away most of the fruits
> of my labor but I thrive in spite of that.

Yes, you are a model of the self-made man. Quite a fighter.

I got to where I was with fawning to other people and lying about my real political views and where they lead.

I was actually asked by a professional sports team to do trials for them. I had no interest in that as I played for pleasure. The pay would have been a major incentive, but the lifestyle is monotonous AFAIK.

Jordan Wrote:
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> I got to where I was with fawning to other people
> and lying about my real political views and where
> they lead.

Again, fine prose.


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> I was actually asked by a professional sports team
> to do trials for them. I had no interest in that
> as I played for pleasure. The pay would have been
> a major incentive, but the lifestyle is monotonous
> AFAIK.

Ah yes, Jordan was a great athlete as well. Why am I not surprised?

I was actually a pretty mediocre athlete. I have a few minor trophies at home, but nothing major.

I thought you just told us you were asked to go pro.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> Sweden?

Massive race riots in Stockholm. From a country which was formerly among the most peaceful and prosperous in the world.

> Japan?

A one party state run by the Liberal Democrats as they call themselves. Their population is in freefall due to the encouragement of sexual licentiousness and discouragement of population renewal. Sweden has the same issue.

Not exactly paradise.

Jordan wrote:

> Socialist policies have exploited me when I have
> worked hard and made money, and are now promoting
> racist and sexist indoctrination through the
> school system against people who happen to be born
> looking like I do.

You have explained everything.

This is what happens when Mrs Lot's whitey brigade goes off and patronizes the Third World. Many of them end up offering horizontal solidarity with the locals, often for money.

But of course according to the sentiments of Mrs Lot elsewhere, "their bodies, their choices". :(

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/03/16/591191365/after-oxfams-sex-scandal-shocking-revelations-a-scramble-for-solutions?t=1561023025797

"
'During focus group discussions, some participants said aid workers would "make sexual advances on women and girls in exchange for goods or services necessary for survival." As a result, some women and girls said they would only go to distribution sites with a chaperone, the report states.'

Jordan writes of the

- "Whitey brigade"

- White people (Jordan thinks I'm white.) having sex with people of other races "often for money"

- Women thinking they have power over their own bodies


What could explain this rage? Well, seven years ago a poster named Jordan was married to a non-Caucasian woman who spoke good English but preferred attending LDS church services conducted in her native language and with whom he had a rich sex life. Now he is a never married Exmo who hates women and foreigners.

He was Jordan, then Canuck Exmo, then Hwint, then Jordan again, and yesterday LogicalCanuckExo. Last week he removed the first post about his happy marriage, but the rest of his history is documented under these other names.

Life apparently hasn't been kind to Jordan of late. Hence

> Socialist policies have exploited me when I have
> worked hard and made money, and are now promoting
> racist and sexist indoctrination through the
> school system against people who happen to be born
> looking like I do.

Poor man.

Great movie. Is Michael Caine's favorite roll.

His wife is also in the movie. I believe she plays Roxane the love interest of Connery.

Old English parlor joke:

"Tell me, are you fond of Kipling?"

"I can't say, I've never kippled."

anybody Wrote:
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> and thought that being a god wasn't such a good
> idea?

SPOILER WARNING

It is a great fable. Most people are completely unfit for power, and even those who are end up being corrupted by it.

For those in the know, Freemasonry has as its secret core the doctrine of apotheosis. (There is even a famous painting of the aristocrat George Washington being exalted.) Kipling was aware of this, as was Joseph Smith who grasped it intuitively. Freemasonry is a form of occultism, although it denies it.

It also takes its inspiration from Ezekiel 28 v 9.
"Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee."

It is also a fable about the power of the state, and those who would strengthen the power of the state, and increase dependency on that, as that has never ended happily. There are many people who want the state to support them, control every aspect of their lives and dominate them. These milquetoasts can be found in every place in every era - they usually have an unconscious overattachment to their mother psychologically speaking.

> Socialist policies have exploited me when I have
> worked hard and made money, and are now promoting
> racist and sexist indoctrination through the
> school system against people who happen to be born
> looking like I do.

I have a good high school friend who moved to Sweden 30-some years ago, that I have regular contact with. I've been there. Lovely country, though expensive. The charges Jordan is making are ludicrous.

As for who makes money off socialism, the largest socialist organization in the world (dollar wise) is the US military. [OK, China is largest. US military is #2]Plenty of money to be made there. Got some of it myself, both as a soldier, and as an employee with a defense contractor. (And I've lived in 3 foreign countries, worked in food service and highway construction, in private corporations, and public university. I'm a poster child for this thread) :)

And the Man Who Would Be King, delightful movie. Yeah, it shows its age a bit, but so does West Side Story. Both are excellent.



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Jordan is a troubled man.

Regarding your background, we have a fair bit in common. But that isn't surprising.

And yes the Kipling is delightful. It is also a great study in humanity and psychology, even politics. Like many of Kipling's stories, it is rich on many levels.

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> I have a good high school friend who moved to
> Sweden 30-some years ago, that I have regular
> contact with. I've been there. Lovely country,
> though expensive. The charges Jordan is making are
> ludicrous.

https://www.economist.com/europe/1997/08/28/here-of-all-places

"Between 1935 and 1976, the newspaper says, no fewer than 60,000 young Swedish women deemed mentally defective or otherwise handicapped to a degree “which makes them incapable of looking after their children” were sterilised. More embarrassingly, this happened under laws passed in 1934 by a vigorous new Social Democratic government—a hitherto esteemed forebear of Sweden's present rulers. The laws lapsed only in 1976."

Nowadays, they tend to target the elderly instead.

Nettavision (which is Swedish) on the bestiality problem in 2001, 13 years before it became illegal:

"Animal sex is not illegal in Sweden, and every year between 200 and 300 pets are injured because of sexual assaults.

"The estimate was presented by Svenska Veterinärforbundet, the Swedish veterinary organization, and it is now trying to make the authorities and the public more aware of animals’ suffering. The organization claim the problem has increased during the last couple of years, even if most people are unaware of it.

“We have seen an increase since 1999 when child pornography became illegal,” said Johan Beck-Friis. “It appears, in other words, as there are some people who have replaced children with animals. In both circumstances, it is sex with defenceless individuals.”"

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Once among the most stable countriea in the world. Now this is a regular occurrence:
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html

"Riots broke out in a predominantly immigrant neighborhood of Stockholm Monday night, as residents clashed with police officers and set vehicles on fire, Swedish police say.
Officers were forced to call in reinforcements when a crowd began to gather in the suburb of Rinkeby during the arrest of a suspect, according to a statement from Stockholm police. In recent years, Sweden has taken in more refugees per capita than any other European country, which has fueled tensions"

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https://www.economist.com/europe/1997/08/28/here-of-all-places

So you don't have any evidence to support your claim that Sweden engaged in euthanasia.

You continue to exhibit a disturbing fascination with deviant pornography.

When challenged on your assertion about "massive race riots" in Sweden, you refer us to an article from 1997. That seems a bit lame.

Do you have anything from this century?

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> So you don't have any evidence to support your
> claim that Sweden engaged in euthanasia.
>
> You continue to exhibit a disturbing fascination
> with deviant pornography.

I've never looked at that kind of material. I think I would have to wash my eyes out with quicklime afterwards. You might support it - "their bodies, their choices" - despite it introducing diseases into the human population.

> When challenged on your assertion about "massive
> race riots" in Sweden, you refer us to an article
> from 1997. That seems a bit lame.

There weren't riots in 1997. Try the 2010s. Just after thousands of Syrians were moved in, which was just after a war that NATO started. Clever idea to arm Islamic fundamentalists to start a civil war and then invite the survivors round to your place.

That's what happens when "white saviors" put people in slum dwellings without bothering to give them any work.

But do you think 1997 is a long time ago? Because it isn't. That's recent history.

Oh, fer crying out loud. There were riots that big in Toronto last week over winning the NBA championship. There were race riots in the US (St Louis) just a few years ago, and in Minneapolis just a week or two ago if I recall correctly.

What happens for a few hours in a few blocks does not characterize an entire nation. Again, Jordan's claims about Sweden are ludicrous

There were no major riots in Sweden only thirty years ago. Now Stockholm is getting shut down every other year and they have to bring in police from other areas to deal with the scale of it. The issue has spread to other major settlements on a smaller scale.

This is a very new problem which could have been completely avoided.

Great story.

I really like the movie, too. Directed by John Huston, starring Michael Caine and Sean Connery. A nice slice of epic adventure cinema.

So Jordan posts a flurry of things just before 5:00 and then HWint pops up and says basically the same thing.

Sure, that proves the two are different posters. That leaves only Jordan (the first from seven years ago), Canuck Exmo, and LogicalCanuckExmo.

Maybe they should put in an appearance, too, to show they are "different to" you.



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"the movie, predictably... is a bit awkward from today’s vantage"

What did you mean by this? The meaning is opaque. Is it cinematography? Dubbing/sound? Script? What are you driving at here?