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Posted by: Ervil Lebaron ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 03:49AM

Were most or many students and teachers Mormons at the El Rancho high school in Las Vegas when you were a student there?Was there time for mormon seminary there as in Utah?Were any Mormon students getting in to hot water with Mr Bitz,or just non Mormons ?Was Mr Bitz a mormon?

Did you go on a Mormon mission?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 09:50AM

It’s called Rancho High, not El Rancho.

The mormon students were a very tiny minority.

Seminary was of the early morning variety.

Mr. Bitz was not mormon and he was without prejudice as a disciplinarian.

I was a mormon ‘missionary’ in the Mexican Mission from 1965 to 1967. It’s in quotes because I was not a believer.

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Posted by: Ervil Lebaron ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 08:03PM

Are a lot of the students at a high school like that in Las Vegas Mormons now?My understanding is that 1 in every 6 people in Nevada are a Mormon.Did anybody make a comment about you being a Mormon?How badly did the erect of that seat with a paddle last?Did it last until you were on a Mormon mission?

What would have happened if you told Me Bits that you are not allowing him to hit you with a paddle?

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Posted by: Ervil Lebaron ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 08:05PM

I meant how long did the effect of the seat with the paddle last?

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Posted by: Ervil Lebaron ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 08:06PM

Swat of the paddle I meant.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 08:52PM

Ervil Lebaron Wrote:
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> Are a lot of the students at
> a high school like that in
> Las Vegas Mormons now?

    Answer: I don't know. I left in 1965 and have only been back to visit my family. I don't speak to a single TBM in Las Vegas and haven't since that year. I did not give a homecoming talk when I returned and in all these years only the Davis family made an attempt to contact me, just before Marva died.


> My understanding is that 1
> in every 6 people in Nevada
> are a Mormon. Did anybody
> make a comment about you
> being a Mormon?

    Answer: As to the current population breakdown, no way would that 1/6th all be active. And growing up, being a mormon was not a big deal. Some people were Catholic, others Methodist, etc. The only 'mormon' comments came from a couple of TBM-mothers trying to convince their daughters that me being a Lamanite was bad juju.


> How bad was the effect of
>that swat with a paddle last?

    Answer: less than a flu shot


> Did it last until you were
> on a Mormon mission?

    Answer: No. I didn't even tuck my shirt in when I left his office, nor at any other time.


> What would have happened if
> you told Mr. Bitz that you
> would not allow him to hit
> you with a paddle?

    Answer: Purely a guess 57-1/2 years later: he would have threatened me with expulsion and I would have chosen the paddle over expulsion because mom was getting tired of coming down to the school to sign me back in.



Hey, Ervil, I met a couple of your sons in Cuautla, Morelos, Mexico in October or November of 1966, while "stationed" there. I'm sorry that I don't remember their names. But with as many kids (50+) as you had, you probably don't remember either. Did you choose your Screen Name because you're related or because you admire him?

My email address is public: elderolddog@gmail.com. Feel free to ask me your questions via email.

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Posted by: Ervil Lebaron ( )
Date: December 12, 2019 04:50AM

I sent you an email Elderolddog.I recived no reply.

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: December 10, 2019 09:45PM

Is there an Elderolddog on another board Ervil?

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Date: December 10, 2019 09:53PM


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Date: December 12, 2019 09:27AM


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