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Posted by: someBody ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 06:12PM

A Virginia church donated $18,000 to pay down overdrawn school lunch programs in Stafford and Spotsylvania counties.

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/12/13/church-pays-18k-worth-communitys-school-lunch-debt/

No mention of requiring the children to read Bibles, church literature, or get baptized or anything.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 06:43PM

Do the kids whose lunch accounts were paid off have to wear yellow shirts for a period of time?

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Posted by: macaRomney ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 08:46PM

A lot of that debt could be from well to do parents who forgot to pay their debts. I know here in Utah there are some school districts where the freebies are so out of hand that a majority are getting them. There aren't enough people putting into the system to keep it solvent. So it establishes an entitlement mentality, which is exactly the opposite value that kids should be instilled with.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 11:49PM

That's funny, I thought you were relatively young. But you seem to be implying that you didn't benefit from federally subsidized lunches when you were a child--and that means you finished your school education before the program was instituted in 1946.

So if you escaped that insidiously socialist program, you must be in your nineties by now. Are you by chance a Mormon apostle?

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 12:38AM

I agree that there is a lot of entitlement mentality to benefits, having seen it expressed myself. For example, Pres. Obama's "Auntie Zeituni," now deceased, was found living in public housing in Boston, without a green card or a valid visa. She later embarrassed her NPR interviewers by stating outright that "you people owe it (benefits) to me, that's why I take it. It's my right." (close paraphrase) (Shortly after this, a caravan of unmarked trucks and Chevy Suburbans showed up at the McCormack Housing Project in South Boston, packed her up and whisked her away in the middle of the night.)

I've been in public housing enough to have encountered the mentality on a less public basis.

Disclaimer: In 2010, I experienced very serious financial setbacks, and received food stamps for 6 months. Very happy that's in the rearview mirror!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 02:22AM

I'm sure macaRomney was not making a point about himself, at least not intentionally. But when people who benefit from socialist policies--subsidized lunches, food stamps, mortgage interest deduction, social security, medicare, and countless others--denounce other people for their addiction to incentive-dulling entitlements, they are doing so hypocritically. Sometimes it's better for those with sin not to throw stones.

As for presidential relatives who violate the letter or the spirit of the law, that too is a principle that should be applied across the board rather than ignoring things like, I don't know, working while on visas that don't permit work, overstaying visas, bringing relatives in through chain migration, etc. Rules don't--or at least shouldn't--only apply to the other side.

And regarding your apt characterization of macaRomney making a "political point," that is in fact my point. Partisan politics are not supposed to be on this board, but there are people who seemingly cannot post without bringing in politics. I'm not sure why others are supposed to remain silent in such situations.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2019 02:29AM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 08:37AM

>>So it establishes an entitlement mentality, which is exactly the opposite value that kids should be instilled with.

Kids are kids. Everything, or almost everything is provided for them. So having an entitlement mentality is pretty much their natural state. Teachers do educate them otherwise. A typical conversation with a student might go, "I'm sorry that you don't like those crayons, but that's all that I have right now. I bought them with my own money. If you want a nicer set, ask mom to provide them for you. Students are expected to provide their own supplies."

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 08:59PM

Back in those days, it was a real glass bottle, too!

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: December 14, 2019 11:29PM

Much of this board covers what goes wrong in LDS, religion, and the world. Here and there is some good news:

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/12/13/mystery-donor-drops-gold-coin-worth-1k-salvation-army-kettle/

Edit: "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing..." (Matthew 6:3 ESV).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/14/2019 11:32PM by caffiend.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 01:16AM

I remember skipping lunch because my parents had failed to pay ahead or forgot to pack a sack lunch.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 08:30AM

It's very nice of that church to do that. A number of years ago, my school system had some children paying for lunch. What they would do if an account was in arrears was to offer the child a free PBJ sandwich. The child would get bored with eating that day after day, and mom would eventually pay up.

Now, most schools are designated Title I schools, which means that the entire school student population gets free breakfast and free lunch. It speeds up the cafeteria lines, and ensures that everyone gets fed properly. It is a proven fact that hungry children can not learn.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2019 08:31AM by summer.

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 10:26AM

My word! "Are there no prisons? And the Union workhouses?"

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 01:10PM

And Merry Christmas to you, too!

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Posted by: Thomas Bowlder ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 01:30PM


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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 04:44PM

It's called irony.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 15, 2019 04:47PM

I know. I appreciated the allusion and saw the goodwill implicit in your irony!

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