There have been so many changes since Russel Nelson took over the helm.There is no more home teaching.There are only two hour church meetings on Sunday.It is almost unrecognizable from the church that existed 25 years ago.There is no longer a rule that members do not drink Coke.

Would any of you who left the church 30 years ago or more be shocked if you learnt nothing more about the church or heard no more news about it since 30 years ago?I would be confused.

Some of the older generation of Mormons may have liked 3 hour services and rigorous and demanding home teaching assignments.

Another is issue is the change is dress standards for missionaires.They can dress more casually.

Mormonism has been one of my hobbies for years and I used to take pride in what I felt was my accurate knowledge of what Mormonism teaches and what Mormons believe and practice. Sometimes friends who knew of my "hobby" would ask questions such as, for example, what Mormons believe about African Americans. But I've found that within my lifetime the Mormon Church has changed so much that engaging in "continuing education" about Mormonism is necessary for me to accurately talk about it, and I am even then, less sure about what I might say than I once was.

I have made a practice of feeding the missionaries over the years and have even found myself these days sometimes mentioning things about certain teachings that seem now to be "off their map."

My own experience 40 years ago made me even wonder where the church went.

Priesthood changes:

No more Patriarch to the Church.
No 70s in the ward. 70s used to be an office between elder and high priest. 70s were not general authorities.

Add to that

11 year old deacons

Temple

No more penalties
No more naked touching
No more preacher

Add

Priests doing baptisms for the dead

Social structure

No more ward dinners, ward fund raisers, relief society bazaars, road shows etc.

Add

No more independent auxiliary.

Doctrine

Not much different when I left but now.

Deny godhood
Deny most teachings on polygamy

But the largest difference for me is the lack of individual power and basic abolition of the family as a unit in the church.

Too much is dictated and too much power is inserted into the home.

I do not recognize the church today in structure, doctrine or social status as the one I grew up in. If anything it truly would deserve to no longer be called a mormon church.

Heartless Wrote:
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> If anything it truly would deserve to no longer be
> called a mormon church.

And it isn't anymore.

Warren jeffs Wrote:
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> There have been so many changes since Russel
> Nelson took over the helm.There is no more home
> teaching.There are only two hour church meetings
> on Sunday.It is almost unrecognizable from the
> church that existed 25 years ago.There is no
> longer a rule that members do not drink Coke.
>
> Would any of you who left the church 30 years ago
> or more be shocked if you learnt nothing more
> about the church or heard no more news about it
> since 30 years ago?I would be confused.
>
> Some of the older generation of Mormons may have
> liked 3 hour services and rigorous and demanding
> home teaching assignments.
I doubt if they would recognize it

You forgot the big one. Gays? We allow gays?

Oh, yeah!

Back in the day, gay men were an abomination! Gay women were okay; they just needed a good rogering to get them sorted out...

> a good rogering . . .

Yeah, yeah, and "Roger" is your first name.

Good try.

So Much of Mormonism depends on each individual ward & bishop.


Some Bishops are autocrats, some aren't; some read the manual day & night, when they go to bed, when (not while?) they're having sex, when they choose who to speak & the biggie:

Church Discipline.

Lets go English and say "swivving" instead of Rogering.....

Part of my fascination or disbelief of how Mormonism(via the Osmond family) has changed. The mother-to be is shown wearing a shirt with is not just sleeveless, but has spaghetti straps. It’s clearly not a swimsuit covering nor can anything else mitigate its Mormon-defined immodestly. The expectant couple have wedding photos posted online in front of the Mormon temple. I’ve seen an overwhelming number of members of my husband’s huge TBM family day and do things that would have been blasphemous not too many years ago.

It is all quite amazing to watch.

This is what happens when it's all made up. Since everything is based on the present man who is sustained as talking to God, the eternal principles get trampled on which shows us they were never eternal at all. If it were God's man and they were eternal, you think he would be messing up what he already got through doing?

We now even have cultural proof it's all fake.

From my nevermo perspective: the trappings have changed but in fundamentals little has changed:

Church hierarchy: highly controlling; money goes up, decisions come down; small group of old white men decide everything, incredible pressure on members to conform.

Doctrine: never admit the facts about Smith, BoM, Book of Abraham, etc. Still searching for those Lamanites!

Recruiting: massive, deceptive, and with little to show for it.