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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: November 11, 2020 02:09PM

Anybody catch Trevor Noah on the Daily Show last night?

You can start the segment at the 1:38 mark.

http://www.cc.com/episodes/jqltk8/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-november-10--2020---lenny-kravitz-season-26-ep-26025

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: November 11, 2020 03:07PM

Ha! at the Joey Fatone NSYNC bit! Still watching...

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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: November 11, 2020 03:11PM

Yeah, my 19 year old daughter didn't get that, but she cracked up at the mormon part.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: November 11, 2020 03:08PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 04:32PM

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just tack on to this one

Utah jumped from a record 3,000 daily new cases last week to a record 4,000 cases today.

That is a jump of 33% in one week. For the previous 7 weeks or so Utah had been going up about 15% a week.


This is what exponential growth looks like. Actually, if it had stayed at 15%, that would be serious exponential growth. When the percentage doubles, I guess the proper name is hyperexponential growth.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 04:43PM

I'm hearing stories. . .

A missionary companion, her husband and their daughter caught it in Utah. They spent a fortnight in ICU and the husband almost died. These people are nowhere near elderly.

Meanwhile an older friend, a coach in his early 70s, was hospitalized six weeks ago, sedated for a month, incubated for eight days, and then passed away. His family watched him from a window for weeks.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 05:46PM

The median age of people hospitalized (not sure if this was in Utah, or nationally) is 53, which by definition means half the people who are hospitalized are 53 or younger.

I haven't been keeping written stats, but just eyeballing the daily reports in SLTrib, it looks like about 5-10% of the deaths are people under 45, and around 20% are 45-65. The balance are 65-85, or 85+.

Also, 1 death in 250 is a health care worker.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2020 05:48PM by Brother Of Jerry.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 06:08PM

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2771111

"In a recent JAMA research letter, 125 of 143 Italian patients ranging in age from 19 to 84 years still experienced physician-confirmed COVID-19–related symptoms an average of 2 months after their first symptom emerged. All had been hospitalized, with their stays averaging about 2 weeks; 80% hadn’t received any form of ventilation."

"Overall, approximately 10% of people who’ve had COVID-19 experience prolonged symptoms, a UK team estimated in a recently published Practice Pointer on postacute COVID-19 management. And yet, the authors wrote, primary care physicians have little evidence to guide their care."

"But COVID-19 is another matter, Self and his coauthors found in a recent study of 292 individuals with the disease who did not require hospitalization. “One of the goals of this particular study was to understand those with mild symptoms,” Self said. “This was an understudied group.”

More than a third of them hadn’t returned to their usual state of health 2 to 3 weeks after testing positive, the researchers wrote in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The older the patients, the more likely they were to say they their pre–COVID-19 health hadn’t come back. But even a quarter of the youngest, those aged 18 to 34 years, said they had not yet regained their health."

"In the study of Italian patients,the most common symptoms reported at follow-up were fatigue, shortness of breath, joint pain, and chest pain, in that order. None of the patients had a fever or other sign or symptom of acute illness, but about 44% of them had a worsened quality of life."

"A recent survey by the grassroots group COVID-19 “Survivor Corps” found that fatigue was the most common of the top 50 symptoms experienced by the more than 1500 long haulers who responded, followed by muscle or body aches, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, and difficulty concentrating."

"Cough is the most common persistent symptom seen at the new COVID-19 Recovery Clinic (CORE) at Montefiore Medical Center in New York, codirector Aluko Hope, MD, MSCE, said in an interview. Between Hope, a pulmonary and critical care specialist, and the clinic’s other director, general internist Seth Congdon, MD, the clinic sees a wide range of patients, including some who were never hospitalized. What the CORE patients have in common is that they haven’t yet returned to their pre–COVID-19 health. At least a few of them have been sick for 4 or 5 months, Hope said. Besides the persistent cough, which can also occur with other viruses, loss of taste and smell lingers for many long haulers.

Many of the clinic’s patients are also still short of breath. This could be due to the deconditioning seen with any lengthy illness, Hope said, or to infection-specific conditions, such as postviral reactive airways disease, lung fibrosis, or viral myocarditis. Hope said that he’s seen at least one patient with no history of heart disease who developed postviral heart failure."

"Lockman and many other long haulers describe their most debilitating persistent symptom as impaired memory and concentration, often with extreme fatigue."

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 06:50PM

There are also new studies showing a much elevated rate of psychological and mental problems after recovery from infection, and not just the stuff people suffer after bad illnesses or long hospitalizations. It's important to realize this is a vascular illness rather than just pulmonary, so heart attacks, strokes, DVTs, pulmonary embolisms, and mental deterioration are all effects.

It sure would be nice if the US had a strategy for dealing with this horrific disease, something other than a second round of golf.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 06:09PM

From what I'm reading, the mask mandates don't apply to religious meetings. Apparently the civil government does not want to infringe on the right of religious people to infect others.

In keeping up with the times, the COB reduced the max number of worshippers down to 99.

That ought to qualify as a revelation, que no?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 12, 2020 09:36PM

I wonder if there will be any bishops, who, seeing a serious outbreak in their ward, will unilaterally cancel services in their ward?

I've heard several bishops over the years upset/annoyed with what they considered to be misguided church policies. I wouldn't expect any rebellious bishops, but it wouldn't astonish me either.

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