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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 02:07PM

He is only 18 years old and I fear for his safety in South America.
The audacity of the mormon(small m) church in exposing these immature young people to the dangers of proselyting in the current worldwide environment is apalling.
It only goes to show how little the leaders have in regard for the member.
I have been to So.America and they are in geat danger. Is there no good judgement left?

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 02:54PM

Has there ever been?

Its just a JOB

They don't know how to do it
They're too old, lazy, smarmy
So they send the youngest men

Busy-Work

To occupy them

So they can't occupy themselves

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Posted by: pollythinks ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 06:38PM

I don't blame you for being upset. This is no time to send kids outside the USA, that is, if they have to go on a mission.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 08:48PM

That is disgusting if they are sending him out during a pandemic.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 09:50PM

^This

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 11:12PM

When the organization you work for is actively trying to harm you or kill you, that organization has lost the moral high ground.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: January 21, 2021 11:44PM

I think getting called during a pandemic kind of boggles the mind. If they are going to be confined to their apartment then why bother.

Of course South America in general has lower rates than the US, so it might well be safer there, covidly speaking. I think people here tend to worry too much about the danger of missions. I once looked up the US mortality figures for white male 19 year olds (yes, they break it down that finely). I don't remember the rate off the top of my head, but I remember thinking it was higher than the number of missionary deaths reported in the news.

When I was teaching (Midwest, about 15k students) we typically had about four students die each school year, roughly equally split between suicide, accident and disease. My point is that there are dangers for those who don't go on missions. They may be different dangers, but no less real. Being chained to a companion probably keeps kids from doing some of the dangerous things kids left on their own do.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: January 22, 2021 12:03AM

"I think people here tend to worry too much about the danger of missions"

HUH?

One can NEVER worry too much about going on a [LDS] "mission", being sent WHEREVER, for whatever "mission" IMPOSSIBLE!

Missions help TSCC
NOT the missionaries

THEY consider them essentially whatever they need FREE labor or busywork for. These are not missions. They are MORMON servants. Called to serve, even where they don't deserve.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: January 25, 2021 10:33AM

He gave his going on a mission talk yesterday and will be leaving in a couple of weeks. Let us all wish him health and safety in his endeavor


thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> He is only 18 years old and I fear for his safety
> in South America.
> The audacity of the mormon(small m) church in
> exposing these immature young people to the
> dangers of proselyting in the current worldwide
> environment is apalling.
> It only goes to show how little the leaders have
> in regard for the member.
> I have been to So.America and they are in geat
> danger. Is there no good judgement left?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: January 25, 2021 10:46AM

My Mission was South America. I wish I cold give you some comfort as I see your worry for the grandson you love.

There are currently 67,000 full time proselityzing (supposedly) missionaries in the world and 31,000 service missionaries. The chances are good of having nothing go wrong.The covid thing is the game changer I would say. BoJ is right statistically. The covid thing is the game changer I would say.

I think there is more danger from the mission presidents than from the particular country. Many are so intent on proving their great spiritual allegiance to the Gerontocracy that they will act in the worst interest of the missionaries, some even have denied medical care. Remember the story of Raptor Jesus? Other MPs don't do that and care about the missionaries. Maybe find a way to get to know what the MP is like in the kid's mission if you are able? Why not write them directly? Put the onus on them.

My mission was what opened my eyes in many ways. I saw the real world finally. So, you never know.

Wishing your grandson all the safety in the world.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: January 25, 2021 07:04PM

I paid my dues in Argentina in 1958 under Pres Pace It wasn't fun

Done & Done Wrote:
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> My Mission was South America. I wish I cold give
> you some comfort as I see your worry for the
> grandson you love.
>
> There are currently 67,000 full time proselityzing
> (supposedly) missionaries in the world and 31,000
> service missionaries. The chances are good of
> having nothing go wrong.The covid thing is the
> game changer I would say. BoJ is right
> statistically. The covid thing is the game
> changer I would say.
>
> I think there is more danger from the mission
> presidents than from the particular country. Many
> are so intent on proving their great spiritual
> allegiance to the Gerontocracy that they will act
> in the worst interest of the missionaries, some
> even have denied medical care. Remember the story
> of Raptor Jesus? Other MPs don't do that and
> care about the missionaries. Maybe find a way to
> get to know what the MP is like in the kid's
> mission if you are able? Why not write them
> directly? Put the onus on them.
>
> My mission was what opened my eyes in many ways.
> I saw the real world finally. So, you never
> know.
>
> Wishing your grandson all the safety in the world.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: January 25, 2021 04:00PM

LDS Corp doesn't care. They are "expendable".

Those who send their children believe that missions are for their own good. And if they die, suffer poorness in health and disease or are critically maimed, then it's all part of God's plan.

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