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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:21PM


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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: March 02, 2021 03:04AM

how much OPie earns ~


from its constant click-bait threds ~


it is as follows ~


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Tier 1 ~ $5.50 per 1000 unique views

Tier 2 ~ $1.30 per 1000 unique views

Tier 3 ~ $0.25 per 1000 unique views

Tier 4 ~ $0.12 per 1000 unique views

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the more exmos click ~



the more scrode licking scat earns ~



better than street bums ~



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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:30PM

I care about everything that is REAL, and good.

HH =)

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Posted by: Mother Who Knows ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 03:31AM

Good answer, HH. Good to hear from you!

Reality, Family, Love, Joy, Giving, Truth, Nature, Work, Health, Survival, Laughter--you get my drift.

I care about MORE, now, and I love MORE people, now that I don't care about organized religion anymore.

Leaving the cult was not a loss, but a huge gain.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:41PM

Well, for a start, I'm still interested in religions and the incredible gods that people make up and, even more incredibly, believe in. I also like trying (and failing, mostly ;-) to understand the world, mainly by reading - and then making music.

It's a small life, but it works.

(and hi to Happy Heretic :-)

Tom in Paris

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: February 24, 2021 04:15PM

Hey Tom! Good to see you.

HH =)

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 24, 2021 04:35PM

Sounds like a beautiful way of life, especially, in Paris.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:43PM

I care about always being found on the right side of history.
I care about what's happening in this country right now.
Which has never happened before.
There is no historical precedence for a twice Impeached former President, after inciting a coup.
What else from history even comes close?

I'd say Sam Harris is right,
"Trump is not Stalin.
He's not Hitler.
Let's find some common ground here."

I care about finding that common ground and planting roots deep down in Terra Firma and giving my children and grandchildren wings to rise above the ugliness to realize their particular genius and add beauty and well being to the world.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2021 01:59PM by schrodingerscat.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:46PM


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Posted by: Just Saying ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 03:17PM

schrodingerscat Wrote:
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> I care about always being found on the right side
> of history.

Did you ever see the TV drama The Man in the High Castle? Would you want to be on the right side of that history as well?

> I'd say Sam Harris is right,
> "Trump is not Stalin.
> He's not Hitler.
> Let's find some common ground here."

Well, which Hitler is he talking about? The Hitler in the 1940s or the Hitler in the late 1920s and early 1930s? If the latter, Trump is very much like Hitler. He is a despot trying to take over a democratic government, while encouraging thugs who spew falsehoods and hatred. Trump in the early 2020s might be just a snapshot of the Trump we might find in the 2040s if we try too hard to "find common ground" as the people in Germany tried to do with Hitler.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 07, 2021 08:06PM

Just Saying Wrote:
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> schrodingerscat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I care about always being found on the right
> side
> > of history.
>
> Did you ever see the TV drama The Man in the High
> Castle? Would you want to be on the right side of
> that history as well?

I did see it (lost interest after about 3 episodes) but I don't get your point?

It was a fantasy, that ignored the atomic bomb.
Yeah, I'd want to be on the right side of history, by fostering, nurturing, loving life.

> Well, which Hitler is he talking about?

The Hitler who killed 6 million Jews/Poles/Russians/Gays/Roma.

> The
> Hitler in the 1940s or the Hitler in the late
> 1920s and early 1930s? If the latter, Trump is
> very much like Hitler. He is a despot trying to
> take over a democratic government, while
> encouraging thugs who spew falsehoods and hatred.
> Trump in the early 2020s might be just a snapshot
> of the Trump we might find in the 2040s if we try
> too hard to "find common ground" as the people in
> Germany tried to do with Hitler.


It's not hard to find common ground, I don't think, or it shouldn't be, because we all want to survive, right?
Not just survive, but thrive.
We all want a better future for our children than the world we live in currently, right?
We all want life to be easier for the next generation,
so that they can spend more time enjoying life and less time living in a state of constant fear,
or worse.

I just think that we were living in a time that was like South Africa under Apartheid up until the 90's. Then there were a lot of demonstrations and fighting in streets and Nelson Mandella ended up getting released from prison, and went on to lead the country in reconciliation and relative peace.

I think that's kind of what's happening in America right now.
We're still an extremely racist society.
But that racism isn't going away.
It didn't go away in South Africa either,
it's just that the white supremacists were driven out of power.
That's what just happened in America.
Now instead of Mandella getting released from Prison and becoming President, an ex President should be going to jail, if Justice has not drawn her final breath.
I believe she is alive and well and ready to grab ExPresident Pussy Grabber by the balls and make him her bitch.
Then there can be reconciliation.



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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 01:47PM

Everything else I cared about when I DID care about god and religion.

For me, I just lost the care for god and religion and kept eveything else. The way your post is worded, it sounds like when one cares for god and religion, there's nothing else to care about, and when you no longer care for god and religion, you need to pick something new.

You probably didn't mean it like that, but that's how it reads.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 02:06PM

I guess it is presuming a lot, but that seems to be the most vocal attitude expressed by this community. I care about religion as an organizing principle. It is a way to survive by creating artificial groups of us vs them, when ther is no ‘outgroup’.
In reality we are all in the same boat,
And that boat is taking on water.
So we better all start
A. Baling water
B. Finding the leak and patching it and
C. Build a more seaworthy vessel!

God ain’t gonna come save us!
There is no Great White Patriarchal Savior coming save us.
He is sitting in prison demanding organic diet.
The only hero is you.
Snap out of it!

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 02:16PM

Dead on, Roy.

Stuff worth caring about just moved to the top once religion and God were deleted. It was always inevitable that the cream would rise to the top once the bubbles of the foamy froth popped.

Truth is caring about things with real value is what helped get the God/Religion thing cancelled as it was a distraction from what really counts.

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Posted by: Humberto ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 02:57PM

As others have said, I care about the same things I did before. But, perhaps with a bit more appreciation and care for truth. Real, verifiable truth.

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Posted by: CrispingPin ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 03:17PM

Dogs

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 03:22PM

God/religion were never my top priority. I suppose that's why I was never good at being mormon.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 09:22PM

schrodingerscat

What do you mean?

Was something supposed to change? Why?

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 11:06AM

moremany Wrote:
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> schrodingerscat
>
> What do you mean?
>
> Was something supposed to change? Why?

I know my world view changed.
I quit expecting a savior to come and save us from ourselves.
And started being the change I wanted to see in the world.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: February 05, 2021 09:45PM

From an individual perspective, aren’t each of us on the “right side of history”? Maybe it turns out to be a losing side, but why should that have any bearing on the matter? It was the right side when we chose it.

I think the OP worries too much about what other people think of him. Pretty soon we’ll get to what the best color is to like. Gotta be on the right side of history when we make that choice!

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 11:08AM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> From an individual perspective, aren’t each of
> us on the “right side of history”? Maybe it
> turns out to be a losing side, but why should that
> have any bearing on the matter? It was the right
> side when we chose it.
>
> I think the OP worries too much about what other
> people think of him. Pretty soon we’ll get to
> what the best color is to like. Gotta be on the
> right side of history when we make that choice!

I only care what my loved ones think of me, not randos on the internet.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 11:46AM


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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 11:54AM

Exactly. Me too. And I knew as a kid even.

It boggles the mind that grown adults feel like they need to go to a church and be told over and over what is right and what is wrong.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 06:51PM

Anybody who is in a group that is constantly telling her what is right and wrong can be confident that they are lying.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: February 25, 2021 09:29AM


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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: February 06, 2021 12:17PM

I care about the creative figure photography at which I am very profecient.
The nude imagery of the human body is a glorious thing to behold



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Posted by: Cold-Dodger ( )
Date: February 08, 2021 06:59AM

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

This, but I would modify it. I believe in all things that are real. I care about truth.

I didn’t stop caring about people generally or stop caring about being honest or stop seeking after truth — I just do it without a belief in God now. In fact, I can more fully commit to these things now that I’m not bound by the arbitrary whims of a made up religion.

I was convinced by many conversations with diverse nonMormon people over many years that my devotion to Elohim, the white bearded man on kolob, stood in the way of a better mode of being that was more in line with the sorts of things I’d imagined I’d be doing as a humble follower of Christ. For example, there was a massive flood in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where I served my mission. We helped clean up for all of a few days before the mission president made us go back to knocking on doors and shoving our scriptures down Iowa’s throats. I would rather have helped people rebuild their homes a little longer. We would have touched so many lives that way. But at the end of the day the church is an international corporation obsessed with spreadsheets and bottom lines while human needs get forgotten as “key indicators” suffer.

I’m not going to pretend that I’m some Nazarene who has taken an oath not to cut his hair as he floats above the rest of you. I’m quite solitary these days. I help people when I can, but I don’t have much and I’ve had to take time to care about myself. I didn’t do a lot of that before. Leaving the cult took a lot out of me. But I still enjoy edifying my morality. I care about the world in ways I felt conflicted about before. I enjoy learning truths I previously felt threatened by. I used to think Jesus Christ according to Joseph Smith was the best way to get people to get along and build a better world. Turns out you can skip the nonsense and preach those things directly. It works a lot better too.

It’s amazing how quickly you get dismissed as a “social justice warrior.” When people from your old tribe see how much you care about so many different things, they react out of a mixture of jealousy or annoyance or — I don’t know know what — but they move quickly to belittle it and shove it away. As soon as they beat you down and make you shy about sharing any of your new world with them, they go right back to their cruel and ignorant bullshit about how nonbelievers are selfish and entitled brats who don’t care about anything.

I care about all the things I used to care about, minus a whole lot of baggage.



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Posted by: Onanymous ( )
Date: March 02, 2021 04:57AM

Cold-Dodger Wrote:
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> I was convinced by many conversations with diverse
> nonMormon people over many years that my devotion
> to Elohim, the white bearded man on kolob, stood
> in the way of a better mode of being that was more
> in line with the sorts of things I’d imagined
> I’d be doing as a humble follower of Christ.

sure, but then it's a matter of a minute's thought to ditch the previously-literal and naive view of this ontological reality and evolve it to a more nuanced view, while still being able to maintain relationships w/in the customary sociocultural milieu (if that's what was originally desired)

during my time in the church, i was easily able to separate the ultimate / conventional views (samvriti/paramatha) depending on who i may have been speaking to at the time w/o fear of hypocrisy, realizing that most other folks aren't up to that level of understanding.

that said, when it comes down to matters like which organization you give your $$$ or euros to, then the question can become more serious & hard to decide (anything w/money involved becomes more serious imo)


> there was a massive flood in Cedar
> Rapids, Iowa, where I served my mission. We helped
> clean up for all of a few days before the mission
> president made us go back to knocking on doors and
> shoving our scriptures down Iowa’s throats. I
> would rather have helped people rebuild their
> homes a little longer. We would have touched so
> many lives that way. But at the end of the day the
> church is an international corporation obsessed
> with spreadsheets and bottom lines while human
> needs get forgotten as “key indicators”
> suffer.

sad but true, and what's worse is their myopia is not seeing how doing the 'human reach out' in itself can be a great form of publicity for the church ... in your case all it would've taken is the mission president to say, 'yeah, ya know what, go ahead and keep helpin' those folks out with the rebuilding, mention you're from the church and go into it if someone is interested but don't make a big to-do about it,' and you could've done a lot more to improve the church's p.r. situation than anything door knocking


all the other stuff sounds good too

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Posted by: dwindler ( )
Date: February 08, 2021 07:45AM

8 kids
7 kids-in-laws
22 grandkids

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: February 08, 2021 09:10AM

I care about my family, my pets, and my friends. I care about doing a good job at my work. I take care of the environment around me, and support many larger environmental issues. I care that people will be better able to separate fact from fiction. I want scammers and con artists to not take advantage of people.

Last (but maybe first,) I care about myself. When someone who is not close to me wants something from me, I measure that want against my own best self interest.

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Posted by: Cold-Dodger ( )
Date: February 24, 2021 04:49PM

Watching my species and moreover my own nation land its most high tech robot on another world with video for the first time. I’ve never “felt the spirit” like this before. I love this. https://youtu.be/iKGZDdjPxr8

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: February 25, 2021 11:40AM

Cold-Dodger Wrote:
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> Watching my species and moreover my own nation
> land its most high tech robot on another world
> with video for the first time. I’ve never
> “felt the spirit” like this before. I love
> this. https://youtu.be/iKGZDdjPxr8

Ironically, Elon Musk wants our species to neural link to Skynet and go live on the only planet occupied solely by robots, after we nuke it, in order to avoid the AI apocalypse.

“I want to die on Mars, just not on impact.” Elon Musk



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Posted by: Adam the Warrior ( )
Date: February 26, 2021 01:46PM

Still trying to figure that out. I think I am caring about survivors of horrible and abusive people like narcissists or psychopaths.

Yes I am starting to care about real people and not just ducks or other animals.

I know this is a shock for someone that did not care about anyone or anything for a long time.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: March 02, 2021 02:55AM

Helpin' out Ziller here.

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Posted by: En Theos ( )
Date: March 02, 2021 03:22PM

Ayahuasca. It shattered all previous religious delusions of "God."

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