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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 04:18PM

How would the remains of a closely related human walking around China 146,000yo fit into the Mormon Dogma that God created the first humans, Adam and Eve, 6,000 years ago in the Garden of Eden in Missouri?

"A 146,000-Year-Old Fossil Dubbed ‘Dragon Man’ Might Be One of Our Closest Relatives
A mysterious Middle Pleistocene skull from a Chinese well has inspired debate among paleoanthropologists

"Three years ago, a Chinese farmer made an unusual donation to a university museum—a giant, nearly intact human skull with strange proportions and an unusual backstory. The man’s family had been hiding the fossil since it was unearthed at a construction site in Harbin nearly 90 years ago.

After geochemical detective work to locate where the fossil was likely found, and painstaking comparison of its distinctive features with those of other early humans, some of the scientists investigating the find believe the cranium from Harbin could represent an entirely new human species—Homo longi or "Dragon Man.” If so, they further suggest it might even be the human lineage most closely related to ourselves.

“The discovery of the Harbin cranium and our analyses suggest that there is a third lineage of archaic human [that] once lived in Asia, and this lineage has [a] closer relationship with H. sapiens than the Neanderthals,” says Xijun Ni, a paleoanthropologist at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Hebei GEO University. If so, that would make the strange skull a close relative indeed since most humans today still have significant amounts of Neanderthal DNA from repeated interbreeding between our species.

Extensive analyses of the skull began soon after it reached the museum in 2018 and resulted in three separate studies, all including Ni, that appear this week in the open-access journal The Innovation.

Direct uranium-series dating suggests the skull is at least 146,000 years old, but a lot more work was needed to attempt to put the isolated fossil into context after 90 years.

The team used X-ray fluorescence to compare the skull’s chemical composition with those of other Middle Pleistocene mammal fossils discovered in the Harbin riverside area, and found them strikingly similar. An analysis of rare-earth elements, from small pieces of bone in the skull’s nasal cavity also matched those of human and mammal remains from the Harbin locale found in sediments dated to 138,000 to 309,000 years ago.

A very close inspection even found sediments stuck inside the skull’s nasal cavity, and their strontium isotope ratios proved a reasonable match for those found in a core that was drilled near the bridge where the skull was said to have been discovered."

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/146000-year-old-fossil-dubbed-dragon-man-might-be-one-our-closest-relatives-180978062/

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 04:23PM

believe all chinese farmers ~

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 10:54PM

Unless they find a seer stone in their well

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 04:31PM

Dragon Man is 99.9% related to MLK who might have known Einstein!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 04:36PM

Now, now, Dagny. S-cat is 99.9% related to Einstein and hence very intelligent.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2021 04:44PM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 04:41PM

“I’m adrift in heavy seas in the dark of night and I can hear the surf crashing against a granite Cliff as Norm enters the bar…”

—-Cheech Marin, Mexico’s own Dragon Man

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Posted by: Dr. No ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 05:04PM

Now have captured attention ;-)

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Posted by: logged off today ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 05:30PM

"three separate studies, all including Ni"

The Knights of Ni demand… a shrubbery!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 05:39PM

LOL. Excellent!

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:01PM

We share 18.7% of our genome with flowers. A measly 18.7%! I say kill'em all!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:09PM

It's just a cellulose wound.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:04PM

Actually, my nearest relative is in Kent, WA.

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Posted by: G. Salviati ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:29PM

"How would the remains of a closely related human walking around China 146,000yo fit into the Mormon Dogma that God created the first humans, Adam and Eve, 6,000 years ago in the Garden of Eden in Missouri?"

RESPONSE: Is that a rhetorical question? How does all of this new information change the long-existing "young Earth" issue that has existed for over a century?

If you really would like to know how a so-called "young Earth" creationist might respond to this question (whatever the context) you might want to read a reasoned attempt by such a person to provide such a response. The best one I know of is by the Jewish physicist Gerald L. Schroeder, in his book, "The Science of God." The gist of his highly detailed argument is that just as space has gradually expanded since the big bang, so also has time; a not unreasonable supposition given big bang cosmology. In any event, he provides all of the chronological details.
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As an aside, I suppose we are back to the situation where whenever you post anything--including as here credible information of broad RfM-related interest--you are attacked by those who would rather belittle you than just not respond. (God forbid we do not hear from them in a post.)

When you deserve to be attacked, they gleefully do so; and when you don't deserve to be attacked, well, they attack anyway, with great fun. It is nice to know that the schoolyard bullies are alive and well. I wonder what they were like as youngsters; were they victims or abusers?

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:35PM

G. Salviati Wrote:
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> When you deserve to be attacked, they gleefully do
> so; and when you don't deserve to be attacked,
> well, they attack anyway

Sometimes you reap what you sow.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 06:45PM

Apropos of nothing, stores sell spray cans full fragrance so as to mask natural, human odors. Judge them, while you’re on a roll!!

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 11:00PM

Exactly. Maybe I prefer a woman who goes totally natural.

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Posted by: Ex-CultMember ( )
Date: June 28, 2021 08:15PM

Like all other archaeological discoveries, they don't support Mormon claims, without coming up with goofy theories like pre-Adamites or God "using material from other worlds" picking up fossils from other planets.

Regardless, this is a very exciting find. Our primate/hominin/homo-sapien family tree is getting more and more interesting with discoveries every year.

No doubt there will be many more hominin and homo species to be discovered and help fill in the likely very robust family tree.

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