The Christian band Adam's Road, comprised of five ex-Mormons (including four ex-missionaries), recently posted a photo on their Facebook page of the guys with Sandra Tanner of Lighthouse fame. Somebody complained to Facebook and had the photo pulled as a violation of "the statement of rights and responsibilities."

It's a photo of five clean-cut young men standing with an older woman, all smiling, no profanity, no nudity, nothing the least bit offensive to anyone but LDS (apparently). https://www.facebook.com/#!/adamsroadband

Gee, is is possible the Mormons filed complaints with FB?

It might be b/c BY and JS are in photos in the background.

Just wondering what's really going on with Facebook.

The owner(s) arent Mormon, are they?

Yet, the constant attempts to intrude on people's privacy is disturbing.

I know several people who recently closed their FB accounts.

Obviously not Mormon, but if enough people report/complain to FB, they take some action, either take down the photo, ban people from posting for a period, etc.
Some people have had their entire page taken down because somebody reported it as a fake.

Yeah, but then FB reviews it and takes away the ban. If the reports were not warranted and make no sense, then FB doesn't follow them.

They do this all the time. This is how the "pants" event got pulled. Sandra herself gets regularly banned from Facebook. Mormons don't seem to be able to obey their own articles of faith.

I used to love the internet when nobody policed it. I hated when social media came in. What Facebook and all the rest did was bottleneck the internet and then they stared censoring it. I liked it better when it was just websites and each webmaster was in charge of their site. This worked really quite well. This site is still old school but I notice the posts are down. Probably because more people go to social media. I find myself just using the internet mostly for business now. I think the fun aspect of it is in the past.

Totally agree with this whole statement!

Used to use F.B. a little to communicate and share photos with close friends & family and to interact with some local F.B. classified pages. Didn't use it for religion or politics.

Out of the blue I received a message saying my account had been suspended for violating one of their policies. (It did not say which one.) I replied and followed all of the steps they gave me. They replied to my reply saying my account had been permanently shut down. (What?) Did not have any luck contacting anyone at F.B. so gave up on it at that point. Have received a few emails from them saying I can open a new account. (Uh....No!)

Maybe I don't get it, but how exactly does the Mormon church make this happen?

Facebook might temporarily pull a post or a picture to review it (if it gets enough reports, that is), however there is nothing to show that they would care even in the slightest about what the Mormons think. Is this not the case?

snb Wrote:
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> Maybe I don't get it, but how exactly does the
> Mormon church make this happen?

It happens when hundreds of people report something as "hate speech."

Hundreds of people might report something and facebook will temporarily take it down. What happens when they review it though? Don't they review things?

I don't know what they do. How about if you research this and report back?

I'm doing that right now, it just sounded like you had already researched it yourself. When you say "they do this all the time" I assume you had some prior knowledge.

Sadly I'm not finding very much on how (or even if) FB deals with abuse of the report button.

They do do it all the time. This research is for your benefit.

For my benefit? Oh please... That made me chuckle.

Makurosu Wrote:
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> They do do it all the time. This research is for
> your benefit.


Just because something is done, 'all the time' (odd phrasing) does not mean you are explaining anything to us. You are simply observing a phenomenon which appears constant to you.

snb's questions are excellent and undoubtedly shared.

Maybe we will all learn more from Zuckerberg's pre-written statements before he 'testifies'.

it's easily abused,you can have one idiot claiming to be the pope with 1000 bot accounts that do what ever they do inc reports,so facebook gets 1000 bot reports and gos with that cos its to hard for them to actually speak to those involved,to busy making 4 bil profit rather than quality product

Why it is OK to shutdown opposing views is beyond me.

Like you say they seem to forget about LDS teachings that talk about agency freedom of thought and expression etc.

I guess those noble ideals only apply to LDS truths.

Both me and my wife got our FB accounts closed for "spamming". Aside from occasional pictures of the family, we did not do much with the accounts.

Except, I would participate in news forums and their discussion boards. Not that anything I posted could be construed as spam or otherwise racist, sexist etc., although some of my posts did deal with a certain presidential candidate and his religion.

But why did my wife's account get shut down as well? Other than sharing an IP address her account had nothing to do with mine. In any case, I had to set up another FB account with another email adress.

With money you can do anything.
That's retarded though. It's like SOPA to a whole new level. It'll be like taking a video of your kid, and having the tv in the background of a show, and all of sudden your video is copyright infringement. lol. hahaha. crappy laws being made by corrupt and useless politicians.

From the photos on their FB page, they sing and have fun at church.....definetely a threat to all things mormondumb, even if they didn't associate with the likes of UTLM.

This is unbelieveable! That some Mormon somewhere has nothing better to do than check out Facebook sites with Sandra Tanner contained therein is outrageous. Bet he/she is paid well!

'christians' are no different than the mormons when it comes to their persecution complexes.

Really, elc1d? It wasn't Mormons who got zapped by Facebook, it was Christians who dared express the opinion that LDS is a fraud.

So, wait, are you talking about a photo with Tanner or some comments about Mormonism being a fraud?

I'm very confused.

Here are some of the comments:

That is disgusting! I filed a complaint with facebook about a page that was posting pornography and graphic language, and facebook replied that it does not violate their policies! It is obvious where their priorities are!
Sunday at 7:32am · 14..Bonnie Joey Rodriguez Wow!
Sunday at 7:33am via mobile..Scott Wade Polston Yes, very interesting! The Mormon church can run, but they can't run from their history!
Sunday at 7:49am · 7..James Baxley-family Rev 22:10 Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.
Rev 22:11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."
Rev 22:12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Sunday at 7:50am · 4..Andrew Ritchie its easy to see what camp facebook is in,
Sunday at 7:51am · 3..Derek N Donna Davis Of course you are being persecuted. You're following Christ and are a blessing to others. GOD BLESS YOU!
Sunday at 7:55am via mobile · 11..Lyle Johnstone Satan is at work, so you must be on the correct track!!!! Blessings, will be praying for you all to come out the other side of the attack shinier than ever before, with the Light of Messiah!

What do you mean that the photo was pulled? It is still up?

Also, it doesn't matter if a Mormon or even a few report a photo. It takes many many more reports for FB to even look at it. It is unlikely that the Mormon church would spend time taking down photos of random Christian people with old anti-Mormons.

It could happen, but I doubt it.

it could go viral and become famous like the aerial photo of Barbara Striesand's house that she tried to have removed from a website documenting coastal erosion. Hardly anyone downloaded the photo until she called attention to its existence by trying to get it removed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

it has way too much "Big Brother" or "1984" type stuff going on all the time it seems!!

Today as we logged in, we received a message stating that we had been flagged for "violating the statement of rights and responsibilities." The picture that was flagged? Adam's Road and Sandra Tanner. Is that interesting to anyone else?

Clearly it happened.

I know many older couples in our ward were called on "computer missions." They were very vague about exactly what they did, but, finally, one lady told us that her job was to hunt down "inactives" on Facebook, and to monitor anti-Mormon propaganda.

After than, yet another senior missionary woman in our ward found my son on Facebook. We had been resigned for many years, and the Mormons had been pestering me non-stop for all of my children's new addresses, phone numbers, and other information. My answer was always, "I don't give out my children's information, without their consent." The wily senior missionary saw my son's photo, surfing with some other Mormons, when he was on a trip to California. She contacted one of the other Mormons in the photo, and bullied him into giving her my son's address. My son was visited by the bishopric. He told them he was Lutheran. Then the missionaries came to his door. He told them he was Lutheran. Then the female missionaries came to his door. He told them he was Lutheran.

Most Mormon mission presidents have a Facebook page for their mission, and also a personal Facebook page. I have kept track of many relatives on senior missions, on Facebook. That's why I joined it, for a while. I would suspect that TSCC orders ALL senior missionaries and mission presidents to maintain Facebook pages. These pages are too much alike--they are formatted the same--almost copycat. Smiling photos of large families, the illusion of abundant blessings and wealth. Yes, carefully formed to not show where they live or give out any personal information. I'm sure they are either instructed, or that their Facebook pages are set up for them, by trained Mormons.

TSCC has admitted that they are focusing more of their recruiting efforts via the internet. Open your eyes, and see it for yourself on Facebook!

It's a waste of time and an invasion of privacy.

The more that I research the Church the more disturbing information I find. This doesn't seem to be the Church that I thought that I joined half a century ago.

Oh, c'mon now, it's just Facebook. It's not like somebody threw a printing press out of a second story window or something.


Wait. What?

If Facebook will ban Diamond and Silk, they'll ban anyone. Although it won't happen, it would be nice to see the government shutdown Facebook after Zukerberg visits the Congress, and then Zukerberg would have to find himself an honest job.

To me this whole discussion is weird. I have people on my short friend-list in several rather vehement camps ranging from super-liberal to pretty conservative-Christian. I've not seen fb take down anything from either.
People can take their own stuff down, or they can hide it. They can take themselves off.

"Diamond & Silk" are two black women who have been prominent Trump supporters, with 1,350,000 followers, very vocal and very entertaining. Their Facebook account was taken down because they are "dangerous to the community."

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/382256-diamond-and-silk-slam-facebook-after-company-deems-their-rhetoric-unsafe-to

The tech gods -- Microsfoft, Google, and Facebook, with their subsidiaries of YouTube, Twitter, etc.--definitely tilt left. Anti-gun ownership content is similarly treated.

Getting back on thread, it seems to me that TSCC is sophisticated enough to look for anti-LDS pages and generate enough complaints to get the pages pulled and the search AL-gorithms "corrected."

If you have any kind of popular music playing in the background, fb will usually flag your video as a copyright violation. Once they flag you as a violator, you get monitored for future violations.

I'll confess--when I was a TBM, I thought that Sandra was a Demoness from Outer Darkness. However, I was never involved with getting her picture or materials taken down. I would have considered such tactics dirty.

I love Sandra Tanner now. I enjoy listening to her talk on YouTube. She has a wonderful countenance that nobody should want to take down.

It used to be that any mention of blood oaths or oath of vengence would be quickly scrubbed from the topic of "Endowment Ceremony" on wikipedia. Myself or someone else would go in to wikipedia and make edits to add the part about the blood oaths. The next day some mormon drone would promptly scrub those parts out, to leave only faith promoting information. With so many church members out there, it was an impossible war to win. Now somehow, those parts are staying in. I don't know if the editors of wikipedia got to the bottom if things and then locked the page after putting in the correct information, or how that happened. At any rate the TBMs lost and the truth is now there, apparently permanently.



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I am glad that the information is staying up on the page. Maybe many exmos were complaining that factual information was continually being removed.