You might also ask about Ether 6:11 concerning the ocean voyage If the fierce wind that drove the Jaradite boat was only 10 mph that equals 240 miles per day X 344 days is 82,500 miles or more than three times around the earth at the equator. My what a trip they took!!!!!
OneWayJay Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The wind may have been 10 MPH but the actual > progress of the boats would most likely be less > due to various reasons. > > Poor sailors running the hybrid submarines make > for crappy progress. Hey You are BLOWING my argument away
You’ve never sailed, have you? Most sailboats would have trouble averaging 10 mph with full sail and a stiff wind. A barge floating low in the water with no sail would never even come close to that speed.
Stuff that washed into the Pacific Ocean after the Fukushima tsunami washed up on US west coast beaches for years afterward.
How did they arrange for a year’s worth of food and water for themselves and their animals is a much much bigger problem. Taking a year to drift across the Pacific is actually making pretty good time.
Missionaries are uninformed and underprepared. I don't expect them to know anything other than what they've been taught. It would be like asking a sales clerk about the chain's corporate financial doings.
About the only questions I might have for missionaries are:
- Are you okay? - Are you hungry? - Would you rather not be here? - Do you want a way to escape?
Like others have said, I doubt that more than a fraction of the missionaries have ever even heard of this teaching. As pointed out on other forums, many missionaries don't even know that the BoM claims Jesus came to America. It is tragic.
You're kidding me? How is it possible that LDS missionaries don't know about Christ in America? I was taught about Christ in America when I was a 12 year old convert. It's what the Book of Mormon is all about: Christ's visit to the Americas. It's what distinguishes the Mormon church from all other churches.
Is LDS Inc now saying Christ was never in the America?
No. It is a marketing tool. That's why all the converts know all about it. But if you are born into the church, you never need to hear about such things. And many never do. All they need to know is that they need to do what Dallin Oaks and the rest tell them to do. I kid you not.
Other religions like Christians have the problem of who created God too. If they claim complicated things like the universe needed a creator, then why wouldn't something as complicated as God need a creator to be consistent? There is no way to explain the first creator except with magic answers. Mormons have an endless chain of Gods trying to explain, deflect and distance themselves from the ultimate question about how God came to be.
Which means the joke on them is that the only way the first God could have come into being was through evolution! A couple of cells that crawled out of some sea like the rest of us?
...then they inevitably ask you how it is that you left the true church. I tell them that Satan appeared to me in a sacred grove and offered me everything I wanted and more if I would deny mormonism...
Hey, how come the devil, when he sensed we were wavering in our faith, didn't show up to offer us riches beyond our comprehension in order to get us to take the final step? Why does he waste his time tempting the totally faithful?