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Posted by: Nuggett ( )
Date: April 09, 2022 01:03AM
Looking for talk from Holland where he basically said it was OK to be a NOM

99.9% sure it was a conference talk where he basically said that if you don't believe in it, but can find some inspiration or wisdom in the BOM then it is OK to be active in the church as a NOM.

Sound familiar to anyone?

I'm thinking this was in the 2011-2014 time frame.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: April 09, 2022 01:43AM
You can probably find it here

https://bencrowder.net/collected-talks/jeffrey-r-holland/

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: April 09, 2022 01:47AM
Re: Looking for talk from Holland where he basically said it was OK to be a NOM

I think ChurchCo is somewhat in a bind as to their posture with individuals who are less than TBMs, family members especially but love & loving, empathy & compassion have Never been their strong point.

just sayin’

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: April 09, 2022 04:51AM
Re: Looking for talk from Holland where he basically said it was OK to be a NOM

That idea seems to be more along the lines of the Givens. They were making the rounds on the Mormon circuit telling people to believe what they want as long as they keep the core Mormon beliefs.

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: April 09, 2022 10:26AM
Re: Looking for talk from Holland where he basically said it was OK to be a NOM

So can one say that the core Mormon beliefs are the "Articles of Faith"?

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/bc/content/shared/content/english/pdf/language-materials/64370_eng.pdf

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: April 10, 2022 08:00AM
Re: Looking for talk from Holland where he basically said it was OK to be a NOM

Gordon B Hinckley said a person can have all the personal beliefs they want but at church only he has the authority to speak for the church. So in the church setting you follow the prophet. It's a clever way of saying publicly you tow the church's line but in private who can do your thing.

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