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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 12:12PM

Like when you lied about your teaching other members, or being a full tithe payer, or obeying all your covenants when you looked at Internet porn?

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Posted by: CrispingPin ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 12:14PM

I blamed myself, but in retrospect, I should have blamed Jesus' brother.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 25, 2022 11:43AM

You still can if you go back! ;)

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 02:12PM

I pled the 5th Commandment; everything I did was to honor my parents ...

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 04:10PM

Starting with being born.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 04:18PM

I felt it was the least I could do, although I regret the likelihood that it's from this humble beginning that I developed my bosom fetish.

Why don't mormons (and just about all mortals) get it, that forbidding things make the 'things' that much more attractive?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 06:15PM

Were you not breast fed as an infant?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 07:14PM

I think you will need to find out on the golf course.

"I view this line of believing, I suppose, a little like recreational golfers who have a choice of three grades of courses to play, say, the famed and formidable Winged Foot West and then the nice and solid Soldier Hollow Gold and then the breezy-easy Fore Lakes Par-3.

Golfers always think they want to go to the biggest, best, most prestigious, toughest courses, but then they end up getting crushed, being miserable, shooting three-digit rounds, losing a dozen Pro V1s in neck-deep rough, swearing loudly and laboring heavily en route. That, to me, day after day, is a fine definition of hell.

On the other hand, most Latter-day Saints want to strive for that highest degree of glory. That’s what everyone’s taught Sunday after Sunday after Sunday. They want to see themselves as Jack Nicklaus at Augusta."
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/07/17/gordon-monson-celestial-question/

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 07:24PM

You probably have no idea how much that resonates!!

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Posted by: Freefromtheshackles ( )
Date: July 31, 2022 04:32PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I felt it was the least I could do, although I
> regret the likelihood that it's from this humble
> beginning that I developed my bosom fetish.
>
> Why don't mormons (and just about all mortals) get
> it, that forbidding things make the 'things' that
> much more attractive?

I never blamed the devil as I'm of the belief that god and the devil ewfer to our own inner light and inner darkness, but I do agree with this statement. It's a reason residents of Utah are the #1 consumers of pornography. I who was a convert, never thought of porn as forbidden and was able to see it for what it was..bad music, horrible acting,etc. The second something is forbidden curiousities rise.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 05:53PM

My goodness no!
my misdeeds were of my choosing and for the most part they were a lot of fun. Particularly those involving encounters with members of the oposite sex

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 24, 2022 06:16PM

Were you ever a believer?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: July 25, 2022 10:20AM

I believed then as now we are each responsible for our own transgressions.

My problem was that more and more ordinary things became transgressions over time to the point it became pointless to try and live without violating some imaginary rule.

Often guidelines were contradictory.

I ignored any "transgression" I couldn't find in the original scripture. When confronted, I'd ask for written proof. Usually shut them up.

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Posted by: squirrely ( )
Date: July 31, 2022 06:05PM

As reuired, I blamed myself for not being good enough. Thank goodness for the bread and water passed by 12 year olds to take all my sin away. Jesus H. C, what a joke.

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