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Posted by: Jeffs ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 03:04AM

If the Lamanites were conquered by an Asian tribe and they killed all the men there would be no Lamanite YDNA. Lets say this new tribe had children with the Lamanite women and later another Asian tribe conquered this tribe and killed everyone but the young men to turn into slaves this would wipe out the maternal dna also.

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Posted by: Occams Razor ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 03:18AM

The simplest explanation for the lack of Lamanite DNA is there were no Lamanites to begin with.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 08:48AM


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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 03:21AM

Orcs could have fought on the side of the Asians. The Lamanites did not have an alliance with the elves.

I mean as long as we're considering the impossible. Lamanites breeding like rabbits, maybe 10 to a litter, and having enough protein powder and spare time to look like gym rats.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 08:48AM

Just curious if the Book of Mormon has been demoted from being the keystone to just something that sits on a shelf.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 10:15AM

>> Just curious if the Book of Mormon has been demoted from being the keystone to just something that sits on a shelf. <<

Keystone? More like a millstone...hanging around the necks of mormons, weighing them down.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 12:07PM


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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 11:53PM

The Book of Mormon is the kidney stone of our religion.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: April 20, 2023 12:01PM

"The Book of Mormon is the kidney stone of our religion."

You win the internet for the day. :-)

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 11:56AM

Sure, they'd buy that. Jesus doesn't have YDNA from humans at all and and they're fine with it.

Wouldn't there be some other evidence this huge genocide by Asians occurred? It must have been quite a big job to kill that many men and not one got missed.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 04:38PM

Absolutely.

Geneticists have identified a period early in HSS history in which the population fell to an isolated pocket of some 125 individuals in southern Africa. There was a clearly observable genetic bottleneck. If the bulk of Native Americans had suddenly been wiped out, we would see the same genetic phenomenon 2000 years ago.

There is no such BoM bottleneck: the genetic pattern goes uninterrupted until the introduction of Western diseases some 5-600 years ago, when the sudden and precipitous collapse of NA populations evinces an almost shrinkage in the extant gene pool.

The lack of such a bottleneck when the BoM claims Native America was destroyed proves definitively that the Mormon narrative is false.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 01:09PM

The main problem is too many focus on Lehi and his small band.

They forget the Mulekites. A much larger band and possibly a much larger DNA pool.

Toss in Zoram as well.

So the diversity would include Ephraim, Manasseh, Judah, Benjamin and what ever servant/slave DNA that came along with it.

Then look at the Lemba tribe in Africa, not only preserving jewish DNA but Cohen DNA.


If it were true, if the people numbered in the millions, something would be preserved even if it was in skeletal remains.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 02:02PM

Don't forget Enki!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 02:25PM

Enki Denki Doo?

Enki Doodle Dandy?

Enki Panky?

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 08:43PM

Has anybody noticed missionaries no longer carry around the Quad?
They only carry the Bible and the Book of Mormon. They don’t want to talk about the BoA or D&C 132, at all! I got into a heated argument with a pair of missionaries over D&C 132 compared to Compton’s In Sacred Loneliness, especially Zina and Henry Jacobs.
The pair of missionaries first claimed to have read the Church’s article on Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo. Then had no idea how many wives Joseph Smith had. When I told them that article said he had 34 wives, 13 of whom were married to other men at the time Joseph “married” them. I say “married” in quotes because you could never legally ‘marry’ a wife who is already married to someone besides you.
They called me a liar and left.
They came back about a week later and apologized, after actually reading the article on Mormon.com
But they still insisted that he didn’t actually have sex with them so there was nothing wrong with that!
My mind was blown at how stupid Mormon missionaries are, these days, having access to the internet, and never really doing independent research on their own religion they are selling full time.
having served a mission and spent 40yrs in their CULT.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2023 08:59PM by schrodingerscat.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 19, 2023 09:42PM

Thank you, The Cat, for not joining in with others, all of whom seem to be intent on trashing my sacred heritage.

I owe you, buddy.


EOD, Boy Lamanite

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 20, 2023 02:14AM

You think the LDS story is more impressive than the real one?

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: April 20, 2023 11:59AM

The way JS wrote down and codified the rules for polygamy as "revealed by the Holy Ghost" in D&C 132 and then broke almost every one of them is almost funny, except that it's sad.

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