I'm curious when the church started fast and testimony meeting and fast offering? Also who's grand idea was it to send the children house to house to collect? It's insane. You pay tithing, not good enough, they need more. So send the youth house to house and guilt the members into it.
They came last week and my wife just lies and says she will pay it at church. I just laugh every time. When I donate to the needy I make sure it's a foundation that is actually held accountable for it.

I hated going out to collect fast offerings so after 2 months I refused.

RB

I just thought it was odd American behavior when I fist saw it in a US ward.

it made me sick to watch little old ladies putting two dollars of their subsistence money into that envelope.

I don't think anything I've ever done made me feel more guilty than taking money from those widows. It felt evil.

RB

It is never a good idea to participate in this when working at a job that has a random schedule which may or may not include Sundays and may or may not include overtime.

My wife and I went to the movies last night and bought the tickets online. When we checked out, a $2.85 "convenience fee" was tacked on.

Of course, airlines and a host of other businesses have started doing this. I have wondered how I, in turn, can charge a fee to cover the costs of making payments.

The church figured out long ago that splitting out charges boosts the bottom line while keeping the costs down as perceived by the victims.

Whoever invented money invented ways of collecting it.

:P

I love their euphemisms for asking for your money.

Fast Offering (n): when a couple of kids show up, uninvited, at your door with an envelope, expecting you to put money in it.

It reminds me of how the newspaper boy used to show up at the door to collect for the newspaper. The ward even delivers a monthly newsletter via these little boys. Maybe the church needs to update their systems, like the newspaper did. They should just have a monthly fast offering/newsletter subscription.

p.s. I remember when the church used to bash other churches for passing a collection plate. They claimed it was so tacky. I think that having 12 year old boys show up at your house to collect money, especially when you don't attend their church, is even worse. (They don't knock at our door anymore, but we had to tell them not to, even after we resigned).



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Yes! I remember when they shamed collection plates too! Yet, other churches don't call its members in yearly to shake them down for their full share. Our bishop used to demand our tax forms to make sure we weren't lying and demanded we pay on the gross instead of the net income.

1. As for the money part, JS figured that the MORE people have to pay, the more they will stay in the religion. He wrote that in the Lectures on Faith.
2. By fast offerings, JS increased the likelihood that the people would obey the fast. And it works.
3. It is a sign of a cult.

I don't know when it started, but the Church will do anything to save money. "We want to look good by providing our poor members with free food, but we don't want to pay for it. Hey, we'll get the members to pay for it. Then we'll make them have to do something, like fasting, so they'll think it's a really sacred thing."

Fast offerings was started by Brigham Young.

Originally it was the first Thursday of the month.

Members did not eat two meals. As far as I know liquids were allowed.

Originally, the members brought the food the saved to the fast meeting and gave it to the bishop.

After the meeting, the bishop doled out the food to the needy.

Over time fast meeting was changed to a sunday. Money was accepted as a donstion vs food. I am old enough to remember collecting food on fast sunday. (And paying tithing in kind. Grandpa would take a few cows to the bishop as tithing)

I remember going with the bishop to distribute food.

Now of course they want cash, bishops rarely help the poor and profits sitting on their granite thrones in the great and spacious building live off the donations.

wow, fascinating that you participated in the real purpose of the fast. Now, evidently, they can use the money anyway they want, with the disclaimer on the tithing slip.

Notice how loud and demanding they knock? Like there is a fire or they are a resident of the house who forgot their keys and they are in the rain and in a hurry to get dry? Their excuse is "in case you couldn't hear" but really it's a very well thought out evil way to psychologically make a demand to get older people to come to the door immediately and feel they must dish out their last pennies. I've seen more than 50 dollars stuffed into the note when my parents couldn't afford us cereal. And then they don't only hit up people who are having hard times they go straight to the obvious poor in the trailer court full of old windows and single parents to demand guilt knock them and you hear all these stories of helping the poor. Funny you take money from the poor to help them. I've seen the bishop refuse to help a poor woman abandoned by her husband with three kids who had to resort to stealing hot dogs from the store for food to eat without bread, they had no help. Meanwhile the bishop built a new house for his lover from all the church funds. They are sickening the excuses made. Many people go without food normally and still pay to this bottomless pit business. Isn't it funny they stick people for tithing and it's still not enough to pay for their new stock options so they have to ask for more and rename it offerings with their hard stealy knock off demands? They're losing members but the stocks and theft are making them money so they don't really care. I like how people are waking up to the obvious pedophilia cults and pyramid scheme.

ChurchCo hasn't accounted (RESPONSIBILITY) for their revenue for a long time, there was a better financial statement a few (30 or 50?) years back, but not at all recently.

there's NO EVIDENCE that they will EVER be transparent - accountable - responsible for their finances in the future, NONE.


Blind Obedience is their tune.

I never had children come along to pick mine up. We never had scouting in our ward either.

I hated it, and so did my mother. She converted to Mormonism from Roman Catholicism, and never truly rid herself from being Catholic. At any rate, we had become poor and lost pretty much everything, so she had little tolerance for young kids shaking her down for money. So she would take the envelope, then walk through the hallway to the kitchen, pause, and come back out with the envelope and give it back to the kid.