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Posted by: Josephsaywhat? ( )
Date: May 10, 2011 12:21AM

"I do not like the old man being called up for erring in doctrine. It looks to much like the Methodists. And not like the latter-day-saints. Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be kicked out of their church. I want the liberty of thinking and believing as I please. It feels so good not to be trammeled." Joseph Smith

Quoted from the book "People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture"
by Terryl L. Givens

I haven't read the book, but nonetheless I have to agree with Joseph here :)

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Posted by: Eldermalin ( )
Date: May 10, 2011 01:56AM

Read through the Amazon preview of the book. Pretty good and I definitely agree that it is amazing how Joseph Smith started a religious movement with such freedom and encouraging of personal revelation has turned into one of the most dogmatic and hierarchal organizations on the planet.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: May 10, 2011 09:03AM

Joseph Smith was the original "Do as I say, not as I do" individual...

Look at what happened to the original witnesses and those who disagreed with him...

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Posted by: runtu ( )
Date: May 10, 2011 11:18AM

You got that right, SLCabbie. Joseph wanted unquestioning obedience; it didn't matter what you believed, as long as you did what you were told. There's been a push in the last 40 years for a more rigid orthodoxy, but obedience is still what matters most.

BTW, I think Joseph's inability to handle disagreement from his "subordinates" is a sign of the man's narcissistic personality.

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Posted by: angsty ( )
Date: May 10, 2011 11:22AM


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