Is there an underground city and other shenanigans in Salt Lake City?

Take a deep breath, please, clear your head a bit and let's talk tunnels.

In a previous RfM thread, poster "anon" asked the following:

"[Is the] City Creek project [an]underground city, money laundering operation?," accompanied by the following link:

("city creek project--underground city, money laundering operation?, " by "anon," at "Recovery from Mormonism" bulletin board, 15 February 2011, 8:56 p.m.)

http://www.moneyteachers.org/Mormon+Illuminati+Underground+City.html

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Now, we have a follow-up post breathlessly addressing the same silly question, put up by RfMer "ex-sushi-chef":

"Hi everyone. Conspiracy show time again.....

"'Someone seems worrying/anticipating if the flood comes to the city creek....'

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,187769

"But, what about those subterranean tunnel network stuff, aren't they real???

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground18b.htm

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prediction/51/text-files/redbook/redbookuz.html

http://searchwarp.com/swa695264-A-Conspiracy-Of-Ufo-Aliens-And-United-States-Government.htm

"(Aren't there any 33+ degree masons among LDS??? Saw a webpage somewhere, says the current president 40th....)

"The main reason so much money has to be spent is that probably church authories have had a clandestine deal to build underground facilities right below the mall to be a part of that network???

"Eventually going to hide themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains....to go into the clefts and the holes of the rocks and into the tops of the ragged rocks and the caves of the earth???

"Rocks of the mountains' mean Rocky Mountains, Denver, Salt Lake, etc.???"

("underground bunker/shelter below the new mall for a few, chosen elite families???," by "ex_sushi_chef," at "Recovery from Mormonism" bulletin board, 12 May 2011, 2:34 a.m.)
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Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

While I don't have the insider pooper scooper regarding allegations of Mormon money laundering shenanigans, I think I can say with some degree of reasonableness that wild speculations about a supposed nuclear bomb-proof city complex reposing under the streets of SLC only makes critics of the Mormon Church with legitimate points of view look like nutwads rivaling LDS believers in Kolobian glory.

(I can also say that I worked for a Salt Lake City-based demolition company back during part of my BYU days in the 1970s, where we tore down a bunch of junk in downtown SLC to make way for the then-Crossroads Mall. There were dozers and hosers and a big, gaping, squared-off hole that could easily be viewed by the passing public, so I don't see how some kind of Secret City of the Saints could be built without folks getting wind of a whole lot of strangeness goin' on).

Anyway, allow me to tell you about some actual underground "facilities," if you will, that do exist under the roads in downtown SLC (at least the ones that I have personally experienced).

I'm talking about the Mormon tunnel system (such as I traveled it) running under Temple Square and connected to Mormon Church offices in downtown Salt Lake City.

I traversed the main tunnel several times over the years.

As I recall, it ran from underneath the Tabernacle on Temple Square over to the Church Administration Building. It was relatively wide, wall-to-wall carpeted, well-lit and could easily accomodate a golf cart (which was, in fact, used to transport GAs and other Church dignitaries and personnel back and forth).

During General Conference, I would sometimes accompany my grandfather Ezra Taft through the tunnel, pushing his wheelchair or walking along with family and staff who were with him. The walk through this tunnel took about 5 to 10 minutes at a leisurely pace. I would be in the tunnel with ETB when, in his later years and due to his frail health, he would exit the Conference sessions at the top-of-the-hour rest song, when the congregation would rise to their feet for a break from the sermonizing before dropping back on their faithful posteriors for the second half of indoctrination. I'd sit in the front congregational rows in the Tabernacle (reserved for GA families, as unfair as that was) until ETB got up and left, assisted by handlers who would escort him out. ETB would be helped off the dais, waving weakly, and members of the Benson family would likewise exit (without waving, by the way). We'd meet up with him in the back area, out of sight behind the out-front stage area where the GAs perched during Conference. There we'd join him and his assistants in wheeling him through the underground tunnel on his eventual way over to where he lived at the Eagle Gate condo that was across the street from Temple Square. If his assistants got ETB out ahead of us, we'd simply make our own way out of the Tabernacle and go over to his apartment. By then, ETB's staff had wheel-chaired him into his small, private study, where they would place him in a soft, leather reclining chair. They would then either turn on the TV for the second half of Conference or merely play soft music for him to listen to.

There is actually nothing dark or secret about that beneath-the-street tunnel--and I saw nothing branching off from it that appeared to go to Zionic bomb shelters, restricted-access laundry rooms, or a mini-city honeycomb of subterranean dwelling places for the Mormon elite in the event of an attack by Satan on God's Chosen Ones.

Geezus, it's essentially an underground trafficway constructed for the convenience of and use by the Mormon high command, their families, their support Church staff and connected Church employees that provides an efficient, quick and out-of-sight way of getting from point A to point B--one that is accessed through the Tabernacle on one end and an underground parking garage (complete with reserved parking spots for the GAs) on the other.

No Indiana Jones mummies, skulls, snakes or kidnap victims.

For all the sci-fi-pie-in-the-sky Illuminati types, sorry for the inconvenient illumination (although I imagine it could be kinda freaky if you turned the lights off).



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And they're going to be used to usher in the great earthquake that will --- well actually, I wasn't paying that much attention but it will accomplish some nefarious purpose. Man in Black wouldn't lie to me. ;)

Eh what? If I ever wrote such a statement it was meant sarcastically or mocking someone who made a claim like that.

Also I hear they have nukes.

It was your conspiracy post -- I loved it. :)

Yeah, I once entered the tunnel from the COB parking lot with a regular recommend. No high secret security at the time. Just a regular decrepit recommend booth guy.

It branched out and basically surrounds the base of the temple. It's used by kids getting dead-dunked so they don't traipse through the "fancy" rooms in the SLC temple, or see people in robes and baker hats.

I assume it has been modified and extended to go to the new Meganacle Conference Center now.

a subterranean group of hideous mutants known as the Morlocks. And then one day ETB had to fight their chief for supremacy in hand to hand combat. Having defeated the leader, your grandfather was the new chief, but he kind of forgot about them. And now they aimlessly roam Trax.

Get it right or I'll send the Master to suck your body dry of energy. ;)

I was once told that there is a tunnel from the Catholic Cathedral to the temple. Hey, Steve, is that one true? There were comments claiming that the real estate for the cathedral was donated by BY. The other interesting note was that, and I don't know if its true, that the SLC cathedral is the only one in the US dedicated to Mary Magdelin. T or F?

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I thought so at the time. I was a great believer in the married Jesus theory and someone in the RCJC spun the tale to wow me, I think. Kind of George Nori-esk.

Steve,

My Great-Grandmother was your Grandfather's personal secretary for sometime when he was pres. She told me about those tunnels. She also told me a story about seeing a flash of light coming from under the door to his office. Must have been Jesus coming and going. Raptorjesus, was that you? You're probably much faster...

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Interesting, wish I could question her about it. She's still alive, but living in a nursing home with severe dementia.

I don't want to let on...but the tunnels are pretty interesting.

I ran into GBH and a host of other GA's...until they decided we too much of a tempation [the t-square missionaries]

The missionaries had to exchange the old (wrong) BOM's with "White and Delightsome" references with the newer PC version. It's difficult to find old BOMs. And the Mark Hofmann letters. Just with the old BOM's, that would take up space. Not in SLC? What do they do with that stuff?

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Slit your throat too...hmmm I am a little too young so when I went through there were no throat slitting portions.

I do remember people would come to confess strange things to me [you would think that would have clued me in]

Some guy detailed all the throat slitting and disemboweling stuff at 23 i just didn't know what to say...BTW he was so inactive and now I see why...Arrrgh!

I just remember papa grizzly bear EBKP calling the square to yell because wifey was unhappy with something a sister missionary did, but it was usually what they wore...can't be cute and love Jesus!

And oh there were the Mormon Apostates talks...and we all knew that ETB has a grand-son or something of the sort who went rogue. Now i finally get it the mantra Apostates leave the church but they can't leave the church alone???

I still remember my love for the 14 fundamentals in following the Prophet...my fav clause the ONLY prophet that is of use or good for you is the one that is Alive...I love it!

Well here we are commiserating! Oh well then

There are women who claim to have been sexually molested in rooms off of those tunnels. Some have their stories online. I'm not convinced there is absolutely nothing to it.

Read the Glenn Pace Memo.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/lds/ldsott.shtml

(Using your "logic," the above link must be true since it, too, is online).



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Tunnels and vaults and high walls and windowless buildings symbolize a secretive, lying cult!

There are a lot of stories about the labyrinths under BYU. When we were freshmen, my boyfriend and his friends broke into the tunnels, and told us all about them. We didn't believe them, at first. They offered to show us, but we were too weirded out to ever want to go there. There was something very creepy about BYU, with girls getting molested, apartments and cars being broken into, students ratting on each other, the Three Nephites being sighted, oija board and "aura" experiments, shock treatments for gays, and those mysterious tunnels underneath it all.

Actually, there were just for utilities and ventilation. We used to imagine the entire campus collapsing in on itself, like the town in the movie "North to Alaska."

sometimes when it snowed you could see the outline of where those utility tunnels were.

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Steve got to skip out on half of conference while everybody else had to drag on through the whole thing. Definitely a life of morg privilege.