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Posted by: dimmesdale ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 09:02AM

An excerpt:
The fascinating thing about Mormonism is that we can see this process happening in real time. As a religion founded within the last two centuries, during a time of good historical record-keeping, Mormonism is an intriguing case study of how a religion transforms from a despised fringe cult to a popular branch of mainstream modern faith. And part of that picture is the ways that the fringier elements have either been abandoned wholesale or kept out of the public eye. .. and indeed kept out of the eyes of its own adherents until they've already bought in. (Mormonism even has a "milk before meat" concept: teach the easy, non-controversial stuff about Mormonism first, and wait to teach the batty stuff until adherents are too deeply invested to leave.) The degree to which Mormonism has become mainstream is the degree to which the less digestible nuts have been eliminated from the fruitcake.


Here's the whole thing:
http://www.alternet.org/story/150885/are_all_religions_equally_crazy?page=entire

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Posted by: dimmesdale ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 09:15AM

Let's not mince words. There is some profoundly crazy stuff in Mormonism. The magic underwear. The retroactive baptism of the dead. Getting to be a god on your own planet after you die. The Garden of Eden being in Missouri. The foundational story of Joseph Smith reading secret magical golden plates through a magic hat. The baptismal font sitting on the backs of 12 cows. (Okay, fine, oxen. Still.) The washings and anointings and veils and temple garments and secret handshakes and other highly ritualized pseudo-Masonic ceremonies. Lying for the Lord. (No, really. Look it up.) The casual shrugging-off of well-known, thoroughly documented facts of history and archaeology that contradict Church doctrine. The shameless, barefaced retroactive continuity, to the point of actually lying about the religion's history. ("Polygamy is not a central tenet of Mormonism, and it never was. Racial bigotry is not a central tenet of Mormonism, and it never was. Stop looking at the Book of Mormon. No, stop it. We'll tell you what our religion says, thank you very much.") Mormonism loves to present a wholesome, clean-cut image of almost obsessive normality to the public... but when you scratch the surface, what you see is howling, chaotic lunacy. That assessment may seem harsh -- but if these ideas were presented in any context other than a religious one, nobody would be debating it.

But then I started thinking...

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Posted by: laluna ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 02:18PM

howling, chaotic lunacy! Love it!

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Posted by: dimmesdale ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 09:17AM

is getting some information from RfM. Some of the links are to RfM, I think.

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Posted by: Adult of god ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 12:47PM

Yes, it is!

Here's the bottom line:


"But all religions are out of touch with reality. All religions are implausible, based on cognitive biases, and unsupported by any good evidence whatsoever. All of them ultimately rely on faith -- i.e., an irrational attachment to a pre-existing idea regardless of any evidence that contradicts it -- as the core foundation of their belief. All of them contort, ignore, or deny reality in order to maintain their attachment to their faith.

And by that definition, all religions are equally crazy.

Some just hide their craziness better than others."


The morg is so new that its craziness is pretty apparent. However, mormonism goes the extra mile in demanding obedience and gets very cultish. So, it's not as benign as accepting a nutty story about a talking snake, and magic crackers, etc. Those concepts just float in the background of our culture without enforcing conformity.

Of course, those long black cover-ups of the middle east are another story.

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Posted by: snb ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 01:10PM

It sums up my thoughts quite nicely. Thanks for the link!

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Posted by: fmrly ExmoinCO ( )
Date: May 13, 2011 06:50PM

topping!

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