So, I had the very TBM inlaws visit recently. My significant other proceeds to hide all of the booze. They were already in the cabinets and out of site but she just wanted to make sure they didn't 'happen upon them'. Presumably, she did this to not offend the parental figures if they should find them while snooping through the cabinets (which I don't think they do). While it doesn't bother me to not drink for a few days, I am a bit bothered by the suggestion that having a drink is offensive. When I visit their house they don't bother to hide the mormon stuff. It occurred to me that mormon offenses occur in only 1 direction. Has anyone else noticed this?

Your home is your castle. So, they display what they are and you should display what your are. If you have to hide shit, then it isn't your castle and shame on you.

Just sayin'...

Ron

It's a bit dishonest. I understand it, I've done it myself, but it really is indicative of not wanting to fight the fight of being who you really are.

Mormon offences only go one direction. The general idea is that they are god's gift to the rest of the world.

when we bypass the blessing of the food. They don't know what to do. They look like Martians with country music playing.

Yes!

Idiots. Oh give me the booze, I'll hide for you.

I know a very safe place that also happens to be pure and delightsome!

When TBM family comes over, we put all our liquor in our bedroom closet. They know we don't drink, but we want to be sensitive. On one hand, it sucks that we're coddling them, on the other, it's worth the price if it helps maintain the relationship. They are socialized to fear very the sight of liquor and those who enjoy it and I don't want to exacerbate what is already a tense issue.

It's sad to allow the tentacles of the cult, through intolerant family members still manage to create guilt and control.

Anyone notice that the 'tolerance' is only a one-way street?

Just me, I wouldn't put up with it--if family puts the cult first, they didn't give a damned about you and show no respect, tolerance or love towards you and your choices.

To thy own self be true.



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I feel the same way. We aren't quite ready to tell our families but we hide stuff when they come over.

Brainwashing and guilt are a hard thing to overcome.

One way indeed. I don't hide the coffee or booze. Coffee maker on the counter and alcohol in fridge or cabinet - where it always is. I don't have liquor bottles sitting out just because. But I don't hide anything away in a closet or anything. It is what it is...

And I love it when my son runs out saying, "gotta poop" and my parents are like, "oh, you have to go #2," and he says, "don't know what that is, but I gotta poop pretty bad" and off he goes to the bathroom.

Only from the mouth of babes....

I was raised saying #1 and #2 - anything else was akin to swearing.

We did this when we first left, and it droves nuts that we couldn't just be ourselves, but my wife just wasn't ready for them to find the alcohol yet. However it didn't take long to overcome that, and now we couldn't give a shit who looks in the fridge and finds the liquor! That in itself is quite liberating. Never mind actually drinking the stuff! Lol

I just bought a new wine rack. It's that oil-rubbed bronze look with vine-like twists in the metal on the sides. It's nice-looking and so are the wines I put in it. It decorates my dining room, and I like it. I have a cheap crap Mr. Coffee machine that I'm about to replace with something that looks good in my kitchen.

But I don't want my place to look like a bar, so I put away the scotch, brandy and the other stuff. Maybe I wouldn't mind if I had a nice decanter to put the brandy in. I just don't think it's appropriate to have that stuff decorating my place. It gives kind of a dorm room look. Not having grown up around liquor, I'm learning about how to do these things in my 40s. My grandfather also enjoyed brandy, and he kept it out of sight under the sink.

I'm just not going to hide my normal and responsible consumption of alcohol from anyone. Why would I do that? If Mormons in my family have a problem with drinking, it's a problem that they're going to need to resolve for themselves, because I'm not doing anything wrong.

May I suggest a rolling bar? I find this little item works wonders when you do not want people seeing the amount of booze you may or may not drink.

I see it being very convenient but why hide?

There is no reason to hide it. I just find it practical when certian people are over.

Today two ward members saw me with my coffee!

Tomorrow wine.

I left TSCC one week after the mission ended.
I shove the booze away when some of my recovering alcoholic friends are over. I don't like to tempt the ones whom have only been dry for a little while.

Really...I should have done it then!

What made you leave?

Tell me more!

Given the 4 stool oak bar on one end of our dinning area, just short of the a naked lady picture on the wall.

That being said I agree with a mans/women home is his/her castle. My family knows we do not go to church and that we drink but when I go to their house I abstain(long story), but if and when anyone comes to my place the parties on.

And by the way, if they were to snoop, make sure to leave the good stuff out to find, JB, Makers Mark, Crown Royal....not Royal Crown that would be bad!!!



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I like 1792 and Sailor Jerry.

I don't hide it anymore but i do try to get rid of the copious amounts of beer bottles in my recycling pile. Last time i had dinner in utah with my family I had a beer, I don't get Squatters out my way and I like their brew. Also, my parents know I home brew with my boyfriend.



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Ahhhh squatters.

Wish I had gone.

You know in UT the alcohol is diluted.

It's the same 3.2 in grocery stores all over the US. That's why I like living in AZ and NM since I can purchase wine and spirits at the grocery store.

I was a bartender back in Provo and had to attend a 3 hour alcohol education class to be certified to serve booze. There's a lot of crazy laws still in effect, but the diluted alcohol is not one of them.



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Yeah 3.5 or something like that. But those brewers in Utah make it work. And they have fun names like Polygamy Porter. I want to make a 'pale and delightsome ale' but am far enough from Utah that few would get it.

It's 4% by volume. It is listed as 3.2 by weight but nobody measures by weight. 4% is just were a session beer should be. Utah beer isn't bad. And when you want something stronger, you can brew it yourself to any strength you like. I have four home brews on tap right now at home.

But I do enjoy a good 4% session beer.

The only thing I've hidden was the hard liquor, but I have a wine rack and beer in the fridge. I also homebrew as a hobby, so I have ales, mead, and cordials around. I don't hide the coffee maker or espresso machine either, as they sit next to the Kitchenaid mixer on the counter.

Relax. Have a homebrew :)

I say maybe hide it to avoid dealing with their B.S., may leave it where it is. It kind of depends on where you're at. I think eventually you'll just leave it out and not care. I'm getting there.

Not about Mormons but Oklahoma Babtists – their close cuzin when it comes to Fundi-mentalism…

Anyway –

Friend of Ziller bought a “millionaire’s house” in Tulsa that had this rilly nice built-in bar and he had done a good job stocking it with a good variety of beer / wine / liquor.

One day Ziller was over and noticed that ALL the beer / wine / liquor were gone.

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Ziller asked, “What happened to all your booze?”

“My in-laws came over last night,” he replied.

Now this kind of surprised Ziller because he knew Friend of Ziller’s in-laws are hard-core tee-totaling Oklahoma Babtists – the FIL is a preacher, grandpa was a famous preacher, you know, the whole nine yards.

“Ziller had no idea your in-laws were such heavy drinkers,” Ziller said.

“They’re not,” he said. “How about you? Do you want a drink?”

Ziller nodded vigorously in the affirmative and was escorted to the laundry room.

Friend of Ziller began rearranging several mounds of laundry, revealing many of the bottles that had previously occupied the bar as he worked.

He finally located a bottle of premium vodka under a pile of his young bride’s thong underwear – talk about attractive packaging.

Ya – he married the preacher’s daughter, but that is another story – mebe for the Recovery from Oklahoma Babtists discussion board.

ziller