jacob Wrote:
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> So now that I'm no longer a Mormon I'm no longer a
> racist?
"Racist" is a word that gets thrown around a lot, to the point where it becomes almost useless. But when I use it, in this context, I mean "white supremacist"
The dictionary definition is: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
Nothing (besides Mein Kampf) is more white supremacist than these Mormon scriptures...
BOOK of MORMON
1 Nephi 11:13 “she was exceedingly fair and white.”
1 Nephi 12:23 ” became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations.”
1 Nephi 13:15 “they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people [Nephites] before they were slain.”
2 Nephi 5:21 “a sore cursing . . . as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.”
2 Nephi 30:6 “scales of darkness shall begin to fall. . . . they shall be a white and delightsome people” (“white and delightsome” was changed to “pure and delightsome” in 1981).
Jacob 3:5 “whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins. . . .”
Jacob 3:8-9 “their skins will be whiter than yours… revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins.”
Alma 3:6 “And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion.”
Alma 3:9 “whosoever did mingle his seed with that of the Lamanites did bring the same curse upon his seed.”
Alma 3:14 “set a mark on them that they and their seed may be separated from thee and thy seed. . . .”
Alma 23:18 “[Lamanites] did open a correspondence with them [Nephites] and the curse of God did no more follow them.”
3 Nephi 2:14-16 “Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites; And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites and . . . became exceedingly fair. . . . ”
3 Nephi 19:25, 30 “they were as white as the countenance and also the garments of Jesus; and behold the whiteness thereof did exceed all the whiteness. . . . nothing upon earth so white as the whiteness thereof… and behold they were white, even as Jesus.”
Mormon 5:15 “for this people shall be scattered, and shall become a dark, a filthy, and a loathsome people, beyond the description of that which ever hath been amongst us. . . .”
Pearl of Great Price
Moses 7:8 “a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan”
Moses 7:12 “Enoch continued to call upon all the people, save it were [i.e., except] the people of Canaan, to repent.”
Moses 7:22 “.for the seed of Cain were black and had not place among them.”
Abraham 1:21 ” king of Egypt [Pharaoh] was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was a partaker of the blood of the Canaanites by birth.”
Abraham 1:27 “Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood.”
> I think that there is a rather undefined line that
> exists between racist or not. Supporting,
> sometimes by association, a racist cause or idea
> is one thing. Actually feeling prejudiced and
> antagonistic at those of another race is another.
IMO, if you believe the Book of Mormon and PoGP are the "Word of God" you believe in a God who curses whole races of people with 'dark' or 'black' skin because of the sins of their fathers and removes that curse when they repent, then curses them again when they sin. If you believe in a God who curses people with black skin and blesses them with white skin, that's white supremacy, disguised as 'divine revelation'. Even though your racism is disguised as 'faith' it's still racism.
> Poor Mormons are in a bad place, they might not
> feel racist but they are forced to either defend
> racism or deny the foundation of their faith.
I don't feel sorry for Mormons, who voted for a White Supremacist more than any other demographic and still support him more than anybody else. They continue to associate with an institution of hate towards dark skinned people, gays and women.
Until Mormons can honestly answer the question, "Why did your church discriminate against black people for most of its history by excluding them from your temples, when you don't need the priesthood to enter a temple?" the 'racist' label applies to them.
Until Mormons redact major portions of their white supremacist scriptures they continue to print and distribute all over the world every day, the 'racist' label applies to them.
Until Mormons can honestly respond to articles like this in the NYT,
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/opinion/sunday/racism-and-the-mormon-church.htmlthe 'racist' label will still stick to them.