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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 02:06PM

I know a lot of this has been stated on this board in the past, many many times. But still, it never ceases to amaze me how so many little things can really improve the quality of life we experience once leaving mormonism behind.

-The pleasure of coffee in the morning (or any time really)
-Being healthy without the word of wisdom
-A relaxing cup of HOT tea
-Reading spiritual books which aren't "scriptures"
-Not giving away 10 percent of my earnings for dubious purposes
-No callings, Sacrament talks, missionary visits and other responsibilities, meetings that waste time
-Dressing how I want, listening to music how I want
Wearing the underwear I want
-Tattoos
-Not feeling guilty for falling asleep without praying, or eating without praying, or doing just about anything without praying first
-Having a genuine discussion about someone else's beliefs without feeling the need to convert them to mine

of course this list can probably go on and on


I just never knew what I was missing when I was TBM. Most of what I saw as evil or wicked is really so innocent..

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 02:13PM

Being in a relationship without having to get married to have sex.

Going to a wedding that isn't just a mormon reception.

Going to dinner and movies on Sundays (and shopping) in Utah and all kinds of other things without a crowd.

Not having to wear nylons all the time. I went to that wedding 2 weeks ago and I had already bought new nylons to go, but then i found a pair that I must have bought over 20 years ago in my drawer. I couldn't believe it. I thought my TBM daughter had used up all my nylons LONG AGO.

The list goes on and on. I did so love getting an inheritance and not having to pay tithing on it . . .

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 02:38PM

Entertaining thoughts that were once contraband.

Jesus knew their thoughts, Matt. 12:25 (Luke 5:22; 6:8).
From within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, Mark 7:20–23.
Remember, to be carnally-minded is death, and to be spiritually-minded is life eternal, 2 Ne. 9:39.
If ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, ye must perish, Mosiah 4:30.
Our thoughts will condemn us, Alma 12:14.
Look unto me in every thought, D&C 6:36.
Cast away your idle thoughts, D&C 88:69.
The thoughts of men’s hearts will be revealed, D&C 88:109.
Every man’s thoughts were evil continually, Moses 8:22.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/gs/thoughts?lang=eng

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 03:07PM

Hear that wicked laugh? I was such a good little mormon girl, I sure enjoy being a sinner.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:02PM

Now you are in Lucifer's power! Enjoy!

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 10:01PM

quality of life thred is quality ~


IN ~ on positive thred ~


positive thred is positive ! ~


thanks OPie ~

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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:12AM

As always I take it as an honor when ziller notices one of my posts

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:03PM

Right? I can't remember he dropped in on mine. It was probably sexual.

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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:06PM

Haha! Well then you are a lucky one ;)
ziller's book reviews always give me a good chuckle, I wish I had that comedic timing.

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Posted by: chipace ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 10:18PM

Rubbing one out and not having to confess to the bishop.

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: September 20, 2018 11:20PM

Hey NonSeq! I’m glad you’re back! Did you get a tat? I want one!

Here are my favorites-

1. Sitting outside wearing shorts and no shirt while drinking coffee and getting some free and natural vitamin D

2. Getting to love people in all OUR goofiness without having to judge.

3. Enjoying a cold beer and cussing with the barkeep.

4. Dogs and cats

5. Trucks and bumps

6. EXMO friends and lOUD laughing

7. Discovering new music.

8. Catching up with fellow wankers like you!

Keep posting, da Bone

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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:15AM

Hey Boner! I have two tattoos and plans for a third when the funds are there for it. I suggest an upper arm tattoo because the sensation wasn't so bad. I have a wise owl with blue eyes sitting on my right upper outer arm. He glares at me when I make stupid choices.
Then I have two giant Alice in Wonderland amanita muscarias (shrooms) on my back left shoulder. I got those the day before I moved out of my parents house a few years ago. It was a very spontaneous weekend for me.

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Posted by: BYU Boner ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 11:53PM

I saw a guy with a pineapple on his inner wrist—tasteful, welcoming, I want one!

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Posted by: Sillyrabbit ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:15PM

Agree with your list (minus tattoos).

Nothing against them, it just doesn't resonate with me as an improvement the way the rest of the list does.

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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:20PM

I suppose I included tattoos because it was something I knew I wanted at a very young age. For a long time I just told myself it would never happen because I didnt want to disgrace my "temple" I had asked my parents at as a teen what they would think if I got one and the answer was a resounding no. so for me it was a point of control.

I definitely understand that it is not for everyone though. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:45PM

I think they look good on others the older I get. As for me and my house I don't think approaching a half century it would be a good idea and all the rest of my house are believing Mormons.

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Posted by: Sillyrabbit ( )
Date: September 24, 2018 07:19PM

No doubt. I mean, I have one. I think in hindsight I got it simply because it was such a taboo thing growing up and likewise wanted to assert control over my own body.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 12:49PM

nonsequiter Wrote:
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> of course this list can probably go on and on

Just thought of another. I was taught in Mormonism that my salvation was up to me.

I was always jealous of Calvinists.

Now I'm free from the burden of eternity and can just be finite me.

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Posted by: nonsequiter ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 01:42PM

I've noticed that those obsessed over their eternity tend to miss out on the experience of our material world. Shouldn't we simply be grateful for the opportunity to suffer in this world and leave the suffering of our next life alone?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 21, 2018 01:44PM

nonsequiter Wrote:
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> Shouldn't we simply be grateful
> for the opportunity to suffer in this world and
> leave the suffering of our next life alone?

We also could be grateful to help with the suffering of our fellow travelers without the eternities hanging like a cross about our necks.

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Posted by: badam2 ( )
Date: September 22, 2018 12:56AM

No one pounding on my door like the fire brigade is a HUGE plus and relief. No one calling me on Sunday just because they did not see me show up and submit like they did. No more having to wear dress clothes, done with all that sh#t. No more feeling like I am being watched at all times by heavenly beings.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 23, 2018 10:55AM

badam2 Wrote:
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> No more
> feeling like I am being watched at all times by
> heavenly beings.

This is huge. The weight of bad faith often is extreme but subtle paranoia.

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Posted by: Paintingnotloggedin ( )
Date: September 23, 2018 06:29PM

coffee & love instead of commuting to early morning seminary
brunch breakfast in bed & national park glories instead of Sacrament meeting three hour block in the morning
Clean laundry instead of skating skeetering through dirty laundry on the way to Sundays blocks of meetings sandwiched squished between work weeks salaried days and work projects nights
embroidery flowers colors floss instead of a litany gawd help me prayer styled in gratitude noticing patterns present beauty instead around me and in me
art instead of scripture study repititous graphite instead of repititious words underline sketch every morning instead of prayer for existence anguish goal set tinkering for gawk to finish fix.
rapt photo sequence sketch set to morning flow graphite after the dark of the night
and god yeah thankyou

no more morning ponderings wondering listing grieving shortcomings off a latest list begging god of the universe/uniserve for another type of skin cell of whatever. morminism forever left me languishing in doubt of very nearly every internal cell lashed to alist of bettering it. lol

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Posted by: JulieG ( )
Date: September 23, 2018 06:50PM

Not wearing pantyhose to church in all sorts of weather (hot, winter)
Not being told where and when I have to go to church on Sunday
Enjoying Bible study
Hearing about Jesus and only Jesus each Sunday in worship service
Saving 10%
Drinking cola products without guilt
Not having church members show up at my house unannounced
Not having all the LDS stuff in my home
Only scripture I have is a Bible
Having a professional clergy
Shopping or going to movies on Sundays without feeling guilt
Not having LDS call me
Not having LDS demand stuff of me
Not having to attend a bunch of meetings

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 24, 2018 12:28PM

JulieG Wrote:
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> Not wearing pantyhose to church in all sorts of
> weather (hot, winter)

Not wearing any underwear if you don't want to...

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