Recovery Board  : RfM
Recovery from Mormonism (RfM) discussion forum. 
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In
Posted by: nli ( )
Date: October 12, 2018 01:47PM

and the Mormon Battalion Association? Will they have to change their name?

What, dear President Nelson, should we now call the Mormon Trail?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: October 12, 2018 02:38PM

Do you have the impression they didn't think this thing all the way through?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: You Too? ( )
Date: October 12, 2018 02:40PM

Only when I think about the academic chairs in Mormon Studies.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 12, 2018 02:45PM

I think they waited until it was fairly certain that BYU football was not going to become big news, so that the term 'stormin' mormons' would not be a popular headline.

Had this year's team been in the top ten, they'd have postponed the 'correction'.

C'mon! Who doesn't love the idea of the Stormin' Mormons becoming collegiate national champions!!!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: October 13, 2018 03:38AM

Golly gee wiz. Who would have thought eradicating the word Mormon would be so complicated.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: October 13, 2018 09:17AM

What will mormon crickets do now ?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 01:06AM

for the world's response to Nelson's big new instruction to the world.

The sound of crickets will play and then....

....everything goes back to exactly the way it was before.

"In the news tonight, Mormon leaders announce construction of a new Mormon temple in our area. Our special panel discusses the impact of the new Mormon temple on a nearby wetland area. News at 11."

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 12:17PM

Some historians (don't have reference) have suggested that the Mormon Battalion was mostly a way to raise Ca$h for the strapped SLV economy.

They mostly marched around 'showing the flag', I don't believe they ever engaged any enemy.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 04:32PM

They did not engage the enemy, mostly because by the time they marched to San Diego, the war was over.

Fun fact: the trail guide for the Mormon Battalion was Jean Baptiste Charbonneau, son of Sacagawea and Toussaint Charbonneau. He accompanied the Lewis and Clark Expedition of 1804-6 as an infant. Pompeys Pillar, a rock formation on the banks of the Yellowstone River 25 miles east of Billings, was named in his honor by William Clark. (Pompey (pronounced POM-pea) or Pomp were his nicknames on the expedition)

From his wikipedia article:
In October 1846, Charbonneau, Antoine Leroux and Pauline Weaver were hired as scouts by General Stephen W. Kearny. Charbonneau's experience with military marches, such as with James William Abert[7]:128 in August 1845, along the Canadian River, and his fluency in Indian languages qualified him for the position. Kearny directed him to join Colonel Philip St. George Cooke on an arduous march from Santa Fe, New Mexico, to San Diego, California, a distance of 1,100 miles (1,800 km). Their mission was to build the first wagon road to Southern California and to guide some 20 huge Murphy supply wagons to the west coast for the military during the Mexican–American War.[7]:136

A contingent of soldiers made up of some 339 Mormon men and four Mormon women, known as the Mormon Battalion, were the builders of that new road over the uncharted southwest from Santa Fe to San Diego and Los Angeles. A memorial to the historic trek of the Mormon Battalion and their guide Charbonneau has been erected at the San Pedro River, one mile (1.6 km) north of the U.S.–Mexico border near the present-day town of Palominas, Arizona. Other monuments or historic markers are in Tucson, Arizona and in California at Box Canyon near Warner Springs, at Temecula, at Old Town San Diego and at Fort Moore in Los Angeles. Colonel Cooke's diary mentions Charbonneau some 29 times from November 16, 1846, to January 21, 1847.[7]:150 Eight of the twenty wagons reached Mission San Luis Rey de Francia, four miles (6 km) from today's Oceanside, California, and the leaders counted the expedition as a success.

Cooke wrote of the Mormon Battalion, "History may be searched in vain for an equal march of infantry."[20] Known as Cooke's Trail or the Gila Trail but more currently known as the Mormon Battalion Trail, the wagon road was used by settlers, miners, stagecoaches of the Butterfield Stage line and cattlemen driving longhorns to feed the gold camps. Parts of the route became the Southern Pacific Railroad and U.S. Route 66. Currently, the Boy Scouts of America gives an award for those who hike sections of this historic trail. In February 1848, knowledge gained about the region was used as the basis of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which established the United States-Mexico border in December 1853, following the Mexican-American War.[7]:151

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 12:26PM

...on pages 164-165 of "Wife No. 19", Eliza explains how BY allowed John D. Lee to collect the Battalion's pay from the Army, and then prevent payment to Battalion member families in Winter Quarters. According to her, many Battalion members left the church........go figure. The San Diego Visitors Center will not discuss this in regards to the Battalion.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: mikemitchell ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 01:06PM

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 01:12PM

Certainly you have heard the news that the Mormon Battalion is now the "Angry Men of Temple Square."

The Mormon Trail is now the "Kirton McConkie Trail."

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Shinehah ( )
Date: October 14, 2018 03:56PM

Danger! Danger! Thanks to Rusty, I now know that that old fellow I saw fishing from a boat at MORMON Lake Arizona was actually "Satan riding on the water". D&C 61:19

Options: ReplyQuote
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In

Screen Name: 
Your Email (optional): 
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
 **     **  **      **  ********   **     **        ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **     **   **   **         ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **     **    ** **          ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  ********      ***           ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **     **    ** **    **    ** 
 **     **  **  **  **  **     **   **   **   **    ** 
  *******    ***  ***   ********   **     **   ******