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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: December 06, 2018 02:38PM

"In mortality everyone that has ever been born has some type of a thorn in the flesh." ~ David A. Bednar
http://www.movinghorizon.com/2011/03/elder-bednar-on-homosexuality.html


Funny, I thought we weren't judged because of Adam's transgression. But I guess Elohim/Jehovah-Jesus/Holy Ghost put a thorn in each and everyone's flesh and a "special witness" for them has no idea where they came from because you know, they can't blame Adam.

Full quote:
"In mortality everyone that has ever been born has some type of a thorn in the flesh. I do not want to get into chemistry, biomechanics or genetics. I’m not going there. But there are different peoples who seem to have various kinds of predispositions to various substances or other things. I don’t know where those come from, and ultimately I would suggest to you where they come from is not the most important question. The question is how do we respond to them as agents who can act and not simply be acted upon."

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: December 06, 2018 03:01PM

"I'm not going there."

Because there is inconvenient, and puts a huge hole in what he says after...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2018 06:06PM by ificouldhietokolob.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: December 06, 2018 04:05PM

Right?

This is a good example of the paucity of actual theology among them.

And here is another example of robotic adherence to absolutes like "total agency" and total responsibility as if we as individuals live in vacuums designed to suck up money and abusive behaviors.

Successful ExMormons are Counts of Monte Christo using their money to assuage their fear and loathing and obsessions with those who mistreated them.

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/lynn-g-robbins_be-100-percent-responsible/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2018 04:09PM by Elder Berry.

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Posted by: cl2 ( )
Date: December 06, 2018 04:59PM


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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: December 06, 2018 05:03PM

It has been a thorn in their collective backsides.

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