In for one year, now out, here is the most important info that I have learned that had I known, would have meant I never would have come back, much less ever been baptized:

-You can't get into the highest level of Heaven unless you are married
-Men in the church can't be a regular boyfriend (risk of excommunication)
-You have to a janitor on a regular rotation
-You have to work for the church for free
-You don't get to choose what job you do
-You have to tell the bishop if you masturbate?
(they never told me this but some on this board said so)
-There will be single handsome gay guys who flirt madly with you and appear to want a relationship, but no one in church will give you the real scoop (it is all for show and as a new convert you are just fresh meat)
-Other churches give you more help, more practical advice, and you don't have to dress up and bring food and work for free.



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But there are many more we could add. It's just too darn many for any one person to list.

Don't forget all the money you must pay.

Another one is that your entire family won't be allowed to see your actual wedding ceremony.

Yeah, the money part was hardly mentioned!


Nor was temple marriage, which seems like everything else mormon, you aren't give choices (like which church, which pastor, how many flowers) you just take what you are given and be 'grateful."



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Expected to work for free and hand over 10% tithing.

Also, no one explained how hard it is to walk away because the members keep trying to pull you back in.

Freaky pests.

I don't think converts learn about temple garments before they're baptized. It would definitely be a deterrent.

Mormonism is scary evil. Okay?
DON'T become one of us (adult LDS)!
It's meant for kids, okay.
You are eight years old now.
It's time you knew the truth.
This church IS NOT 'true'!
In ANY sense of the word.
It's not even good. Okay? [Southpark tone reference]
Still want to be "baptized"?
NO. I NEVER did.

Mormonism is SICK (stultifying. Icky. Creepy. Korrupt.)
Hey, I tried. It is sick though... and I don't mean like, sick man

M@t

When the Mormon cult decides to "consolidate" wards, because of low attendance, and re-structure the ward boundaries, no one has a say in which ward they can attend. Even if the boundary is right down the middle of the street, and your parents live right across the street from you and your family--you can NOT go to the same ward! Phoey on families! When we protested, both bishops threatened to take away our temple recommends, so we wouldn't fe "forever families" together in the CK, either. They threatened to not count our attendance, if we went to the wrong ward, and with no attendance, we would not be worthy of a temple recommend.

For a while, my parents came to our church meetings, to be with the grandchildren, but it got to be too much. When my niece went to the singles ward, we never saw her on Sundays at all.

They don't tell you that church comes first, above your own family. Mormons have no respect for families. The have no respect for parental authority, either.

Same thing happened to us.

Wow. Thanks for the insights.

Inflexible rules in an inflexible church.

And you will be expected to sing the praises of a man who ruined his followers lives by cuckolding them by raping their wives and teenage daughters after sending them on missions overseas. Great example you will be expected to follow.

Don't expect to climb the church ladder unless you're Mormon royalty. Converts will always be outsiders to pioneer stock.

True. When I was eight, I thought they said Ladder Day Saint.
I thought I could climb back down at night and be myself.
Nope! I would have to stay up there ALL THE TIME, visually.
I could climb down mentally, but not EVER visually.

Then I learned it was a LADDER, for real. A TRICK ladder too
With broken rungs... and NO [clear] top or destination.

I would have to die to reach the top
Or 'brown nose' so much, it would stink
Be miserable [not me] my entire life
Fake thoughts, feelings, responses...

Get to the "top" and find NOTHING
Or Joseph's Myth, laughing

Then I realized the ladder went DOWN
To HELLo - in fact - nowhere important
To a sad, miserably dark, risky place
To a fictitious place of no return

Had they said:
"We are weird; do stupid, unnecessary things for nobody"
"We are only concerned with ourselves and nobody else"
"We are FORCED this way because we believe this crap"
Or anything similar and true, I wouldn't have "joined".

But at eight they said it was great!
Said there were no problems, all was perfect.
This was THE ONLY way to live - and die!
Give it all to "the church" and they'll root for you.

I knew it wasn't for me but I couldn't choose for myself.
I didn't have any free-agency that I could use myself.
I didn't know any better so the LDSc must be better.
I grew out of it, and threw it out of me, and GREW.

M@t

Goop,

Yes, I felt that. There was an 'inner circle' even just in my small ward, and although they would be superficially friendly, I would never be in that group.