I'm in the military, in SW Asia.
The camp has recreational computers hooked up to the satellite dish (wait in line, time limit...)

...and rules, of course. No porn, etc., including no "hate" websites. What would constitute a "hate" website? Does it ever happen here? (think from the perspective of defending it to a military commander, would someone like that THINK it's a hate site even if it isn't?)

Opinions?

I really don't think so. The name is "recovery", the code of conduct is specific about being respectful, and the purpose is very clear. Hate sites are pretty obviously hateful. No one here is advocating any violence, destruction, or oppression. I don't see any reasonable argument that this is a hate site.



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No this is not a HATE website. This is not about Non-Mormons hating Mormons. This is about Mormons and former Mormons trying to deal with the cult and what it did to their family relationships and their heads.

"critical" does not equal "hate."

Not that the military would see it the same way, but I think lds.org meets far more requirements for a hate site than this one does.

No who do we hate?

This is a recovery site!

I was in SW Asia with the military a couple years ago, and I don't think you'll have a problem. They're more concerned about porn, and the main reason is because of the viruses that are downloaded with the porn.
If your military commander has a problem with you being on this website, don't defend it - just say that you didn't think it was a hate site, and you won't access it again. I don't think it would be a problem, though. The military recognizes the right to religious freedom, unlike the Mormon church.
You can talk to your military chaplain, and as long as you aren't a threat to yourself or others, the chaplain will maintain your confidentiality. My chaplain was LDS, but he told me that he had counseled many soldiers who felt, as I did, that the LDS Church had lied to them. You might not be the only one out there.

I think the word "hate" gets thrown around too much. Anytime a person encounters an opposite opinion these days, their immediate reaction is to call that person a "hater" or a "bigot" or something along those lines. I would respond, "Ya, and so what?"

I hate the Mormon church and I have no apologies for saying that. There are plenty of things I hate, or dislike or whatever you want to call it.

As long as "hate" doesn't lead to violence or segregation, what's the problem?

This website leads to none of those things, so who cares?

This is about whether a member of the U.S. military, accessing the internet through military servers which restrict access to porn and hate sites, can access RfM without violating any military restrictions. Members of the military who are protecting your freedom don't enjoy those same freedoms while in the performance of their duties. Since RfM is not a hate site, there shouldn't be a problem. Please don't confuse the issue by talking about all the things that you hate, I don't want your comments to keep the OP from being able to access this site.

I love my LDS family. No one here hates Mormons that I know of. We might get frustrated at them though.

I'm a nevermo atheist with very little direct experience of mormonism who became hooked (4 years ago) on the fine people who frequent this board due to my interest (but not participation) in religions.

From an initial attitude of what might be termed "benign disdain", my experience on this board has led me to become much more compassionate with regard to ex-mormons AND those still stuck in it, because it has has helped me to understand the AWFUL mindf*ck involved.

So for me RfM has generated understanding and compassion, NOT hate. Probably made me a better person too!

Thanks to you all :-)

If anything, I consider the LDS church a hate group and therefore any LDS site to be a hate site.

Mormons may think this is a "hate website.
Quote:
"This irrational hate "bleeds through" in Internet discussion groups, social networks, and blogs all across the Internet. Anti-Mormons coordinate and organize themselves into groups, ministries, and parachurches to disseminate their hate. Of late, it has become the vogue expression among them to say that "I'm not anti-Mormon; I'm anti-Mormonism." They seek to make a distinction between hating the person and hating the religion. Nevertheless, if we were to apply this same reasoning to other faiths, such as Judaism, can it be said that the Nazis only hated Judaism, but not the Jews themselves? "



http://www.examiner.com/lds-church-in-national/anti-mormonism-and-the-seven-step-hate-model

Um, I don't think Nazis ever claimed to love the Jews, but have philosophical issues with their belief system.

If I have to read one more false analogy involving Nazis I am going to cry.

But that doesn't guarantee that some muddled mind would not arbitrarily define it otherwise and make rules preventing access.

It would be like difining and labeling tomatoes as toxic, then preventing people from eating them "for their own good."

Sadly, there are mindless worthless laws on the books and bad regulations within governments and organizations. That's why reasonable people need to be vigilent.



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