So after a few months of my kid defiantly telling me he is not giving me his phone password because he needs his privacy, I have his phone in my possession. Then before he gives me the password he tells me there are naked pics of him on it. I tell him I don’t want the password at the moment but will need it when I figure out how to deal with it.

Anyone deal with kids and this kind of a situation. Will involve his therapist but that is a few weeks away. He says there are. I naked girl pics but I’m not believing that. Anybody dealt with this before? And have advice when dealing with the potential problems of self created and possessed child ‘pruhnography’?

Honestly I would tell him that you're not interested in what pictures he has or what he might have stored on the phone you're interested in helping him use is properly. You should then wipe the phone together and start over.

so no finger print access?

if its a modern phone its likley encrypted and you wont get anywhere without his cooperation or paying more than the phone is probably worth.

As it sounds like he's a minor you can wave the threat of child pornography. But unless you're actually willing to follow through with it thats not a productive path to follow i'd guess.

Depending on how old your son is, this might be the perfect opportunity to teach him respect for the law. If he's involoved in child porn, you might need to prosecute someone. If you can't trace the perps, then give your son a good scare, and spell out for him exactly what the penalties are for child porn. If he's 18, well, wait and see what his therapist says about this.

If there's kidde porn on it & you're paying the bill, that's a minefield!

If he admits that there are naked pictures of him and others on the phone, you should assume it is true. "Sexting" or sharing "nudes" is EXTREMELY popular with teens and even pre-teens today.

Although the penalties for possession and distribution of child pornography are unbelievably strict, there is very little chance of prosecution when the pictures are taken by the child depicted. The law doesn't differentiate, though.

Keep in mind that the pictures are likely not just contained on the phone. They are probably backed up to a cloud service, either through the manufacturer (e.g., icloud), the carrier (e.g., verizon), a third party service (e.g., google). Maybe all of the above. The pics might also have been shared via social media (e.g., snapchat or signal) and you have no idea where else they might be now.

One option if he refuses to give you the passcode: take the phone into your garage and drill a 3/8ths inch hole right through the middle. Make sure to wear eye protection. :)

His age and whether he sent the pictures to anyone would be my concern too.

Like Aloysius said, I don't trust that anything is contained anymore just on the phone. If anything is connected to the Internet, you have to consider the data is not private.

Aloysius Wrote:
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> If he admits that there are naked pictures of him
> and others on the phone, you should assume it is
> true. "Sexting" or sharing "nudes" is EXTREMELY
> popular with teens and even pre-teens today.
>
> Although the penalties for possession and
> distribution of child pornography are unbelievably
> strict, there is very little chance of prosecution
> when the pictures are taken by the child depicted.
> The law doesn't differentiate, though.
>
> Keep in mind that the pictures are likely not just
> contained on the phone. They are probably backed
> up to a cloud service, either through the
> manufacturer (e.g., icloud), the carrier (e.g.,
> verizon), a third party service (e.g., google).
> Maybe all of the above. The pics might also have
> been shared via social media (e.g., snapchat or
> signal) and you have no idea where else they might
> be now.
>
> One option if he refuses to give you the passcode:
> take the phone into your garage and drill a 3/8ths
> inch hole right through the middle. Make sure to
> wear eye protection. :)

this will likely ignite a dangerous lithium battery fire. do not do this, very dangerous.

If it were my son I would explain why it is a bad idea to have naked pictures on a phone. When I gave my son a phone it became his property. You can always terminate service for the phone, but I would let him keep his privacy.

Best teacher is making mistakes and learning to do better. Be kind, is my vote. Kids!

We provided my kids dumb-phones (non smart phones) originally. When they wanted smart phones, they had to pay for the phone and the data. They got a car to drive, but it wasn't there's to keep. They paid their share of the insurance and they paid for their own gas.

With all that said, as minors, they knew their parents could exercise their parental-rights over their phone.

If my kid would have told me no, the phone would have been gone.

I am sure my kids will be in therapy one day, but at least they know the value of a dollar now and don't expect their parents to provide everything for them

Are you pitching in for therapy?

nope

The phone is still locked and out of his possession. Still trying to figure his out. When I talk tonite sis’s t is not a big deal. Do I know how many kids have these type of pictures is his reply. He has no shortage of energy to drone on and on about needing the phone back. To add to the story of just weird suspicious behavior, he opts not to sleep in his bed, but sleeps on an excercise mat in front of his door so we cannot walk into his room as he is the door stop. It all reeks of bad behavior and who knows what. And the continued insistence that he is not giving me the password to that god damned device.

It it wrong to count down the days until they are 18? He tells me on the day he is 18, he is out of here. At this rate, I hope it is a threat he keeps.