you have to realize you're in trouble. If your having trouble keeping membership, growing and maintaining relevancy why not build, build, build? After all - aren't magnificent buildings a sign of success?

The point of my post - I have always maintained that any organization, even your own family, is what it is because of the PEOPLE that participate in it. The org becomes strong and grows because of PEOPLE who really believe in and/or feel comfortable, etc. in the org. ChurchCo can build all they want but behind the stained glass and granite exteriors there are conflicted PEOPLE who wonder what they signed up for. These PEOPLE have been infected with the TRUTH. Instead of admiration for a temple prominently placed near a major roadway, the casual observer now says 'oh - that belongs to those bizarre Mormons'. There are multiple, informational related viruses that continue to infect the PEOPLE in the church. And may this plague of TRUTH continue.

Buildings mean only one thing. The hope for permanent returns.

Sadly, there are no permanent returns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFG_lVaBZSY

A tax shelter is a nice return. TSCC is dumping its low end properties in favor of high end ones. They’re not trying to grow the religion anymore. They only need enough people for the “religious use” tax exemption.

yep ~


in b 4 ~ like a real estate corporation will put people b 4 prophets ~

what surprises me about this upcoming remodel for "seismic improvements" is that I was always taught that this building would stand through the millennium, the 14 foot thick walls were suppose to be stronger than the pyramids. And this building would never fall down because BY built it so well. Guess that's a pile of crap.

There wasn't a vote from the members on this. No one in the hierarchy cares what people actually want or think. It's just bad

at quite a rapid rate too. They just don't draw attention to that side of things.

I still think that the Temple Winnebago idea is THE new thing that could really excite the members. They could even combine that with a Visitors Center Winnebago program.

Traveling around the country in tandem. Visiting campgrounds and abandoned shopping mall parking lots. Worthy Mormons can take advantage of the convenience of the Temple Winnebago (with inflatable baptismal font and expandable celestial room tent attachment), while curious non-Mormons can visit the Visitors Center Winnebago to learn more.

Many retired couples would love to serve on a "Winnebago Mission". The Church could probably fund a fleet of 20 Temple Winnebagos for 10 years at the same cost of building and maintaining just one temple building.

It's an idea whose time has come. I'm sure it's a revelation that God is trying to give to Rusty and Wendy. Probably just got stuck somewhere inside that light pen.

Already been proposed.

http://www.salamandersociety.com/temple/

Keep scrolling down until you see the Winnebago temple.

Temple Cruise? Get another wife in International Waters? Initatories without a shield? The mind boggles.



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To me, the church is like Sears. It is past its height of relevancy and customer interest (maybe the 1960s to 1980s.) It has expanded well past the point of sanity (i.e. church temple building, splitting wards.) The products that it has kept are mediocre (doctrines, policies,) and it has gotten rid of things that customers actually want (fun activities, community-building.) Sears had demanded a lot of its customers (i.e. asking you a dozen questions at the cash register when all you want to do is buy a package of socks,) just as the church demands a lot of you (callings, church cleaning, etc.)

Sears has been consistently mismanaged, and so has the Mormon church. At least the church has a good stock portfolio.

You can't just go through the checkout and not be asked multiple questions including the ones about "would you like to contribute towards ______?"

This is one of the reasons I quit Sam's. I thought I'd work 1 day a week to keep the free membership and see the clearance sales before they are all sold out, but the push to force the cashiers to HARD SELL the plus memberships. Instead of advancing the part timers to full time, if you didn't get 2 plus memberships a shift, you can't be full time. They will now hire outside the store for full timers. One of the guys has a family and NEEDS full time, but he doesn't get enough plus memberships. So when I left I told them what I thought of their push for plus memberships. It is THE ONLY THING they focus on.

You seem to see it almost everywhere you go these days. Being a cashier (and myself a customer), I saw the reaction of the customers. It seems "management" in all aspects of life just doesn't get it anymore. Like my boyfriend said, "We are all just commodities."

Sometimes I have plaintively told the cashier, "Please just get me out of the store." I know that they are required to interrogate you, but it's too much.

For a lot of people, renovating their house is the most exciting thing in their life. "Woo-hoo! We'll be just like HGTV!"