https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_Q6JqFMf0

Do you believe there is a God or not?

My guess: With my luck, there probably is a God.

How about you?

I've given this answer before. But basically, if you ask me, "Do you believe in God," then I'll answer, "No. I don't have that believe."

But if you ask me, "Does God exist?" I'll say, "I've no idea."

Well that settles it. You're either a big tipper or you don't tip at all.

??? Your leap of logic exceeds my ability to follow. You were the one who proposed a completely binary question.

Do I believe God exists? I see no need for that hypothesis. Does God exist? Not based on the definitions of God that I am aware of or the evidence that I see.

Is it conceivable that I am wrong? Sure. It’s conceivable that I am wrong about my own existence. All knowledge is provisional.

I just wait for Kori to reveal his latest version of the Truth.

Bit of a bumpy ride, but all the more exhilarating!

No comment ;-)

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead..." Romans 1.9

No.

Anti-matter don't matter.

Hell to the no.

I do not know factually (and neither does anyone else). HOWEVER, it seems not very plausible unless the definition of God is so vague rendering the term to be meaningless. I do not hold a belief that a god exists. I am willing to change my mind but I would need a high standard of verifiable evidence.

define god

dogbloggernli Wrote:
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> define god

This is my position as well.

The word "God" can refer to most anything.

How can anyone possibly say "Yea" or "Nay" unless they know what it is that they are affirming or rejecting?



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> How can anyone possibly say
> "Yea" or "Nay" unless they
> know what it is that they
> are affirming or rejecting?


See? But you let Amyjo prattle on and on regarding her certainty on the issue! Apparently, if you were paying attention to her, you'd KNOW!

Thus...you only have yourself to blame...

[Edited to correct egregious spelling error made by me: Tevai.]

Now my turn to edit! Amyjo was NOT allowed to prattle on. So now it is okay not to know.

Order is restored.



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You are a bad boy, EOD, and may well get a spanking.

Not the pleasant kind, either.

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> You are a bad boy, EOD, and may well get a
> spanking...

...which isn't your job, unless your Saucie's sock puppet!

Hey, I don’t even spank my kids. Law enforcement is YOUR job.

Ah yes, the Golden Age. . .

I define God as the source and originator of the universe and humanity. The creator of time, space, materials, gasses and everything that comprises our tangible reality.

He is the designer of potential. The essence of energy in every form. The most unknowable and invisible father or machine in existence.

He apparently delights in baffling, surprising and impressing all who think they have Him figured out.

Religions fail Him, mortals wonder about Him and history and the future await His will.

The problem is that is not a falsifiable hypothesis.

At a quick glance its also compatible with the Big Bang

It is compatible with almost anything. And when a thing is compatible with almost anything, it ceases to be a thing itself.

There is something out there in the universe, or not in the universe, that is really cool but we haven't found it yet and maybe never will. But it is really cool.

What do you do with THAT?

Pretend you're insightful and profound.

Yes, I guess it's been done here before. . .

He? Have you seen gods genitals or something?

Silly Wabbit. Conjecture is for kids.

Adults demand EVIDENCE.

HH =)

Screen Name Wrote:
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> I define God as the source and originator of the
> universe and humanity. The creator of time, space,
> materials, gasses and everything that comprises
> our tangible reality.
>
> He is the designer of potential. The essence of
> energy in every form. The most unknowable and
> invisible father or machine in existence.

You might find the Hindu concept of Brahman (must have the "n" at the end, because Brahma is a different concept), or the Jewish concept of Ein Sof, of interest.

There is a recognizable commonality of sorts between what you have said here and what many Hindus, and many Jews, often accept as their own understanding.



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"He is the designer of potential. The essence of energy in every form. The most unknowable and invisible father or machine in existence."

COMMENT: Thank you for that "clarification." Given that definition, the answer for EVERYONE should be a profound NO. This is because your definition is manifestly incoherent, and thus "not even wrong." (as Wolfgang Pauli would say) One cannot have a meaningful belief in an "entity" whose defined properties are incoherent. (I know, that is the beauty of religion!) You should have stopped with your first sentence. It was all down hill after that.

Well that settles it. You like to keep the waiter guessing the unknowable....whether you'll tip or not.

Yes and here is why, going along with what Caffiend wrote it's obvious,

Here is some more from Romans 1:19-22 that explains it so clearly

"For the truth about God is known to them instinctively,... Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all god made and have known of his existence and great eternal power. So they will have no excuse... And after a while they began to think up silly ideas of what god was like, the result was their foolish minds became dark..."

> "For the truth about God is
> known to them instinctively, ...
> Since earliest times men have
> seen the earth and sky and all
> god made and have known of his
> existence and great eternal power.
> So they will have no excuse...
> And after a while they began to
> think up silly ideas of what god
> was like, the result was their
> foolish minds became dark..."

"Truth"

What happened to Galileo when he proclaimed that the Earth was in orbit around the sun?

Are you asking me to prove a negative ?
The question is nonsensical until you define "god".

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> The question is nonsensical until you define
> "god".

Yes!!

God is “fat Thor”. Now do you believe?

babyloncansuckit Wrote:
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> God is “fat Thor”. Now do you believe?

No, I do not believe in "fat Thor."

Thank you for explaining.

I have a book, written for a Jewish popular audience (including Jewish atheists), titled: GOD IS A VERB, by David A. Cooper (who is a rabbi).

In other words: God (in this understanding) is NOT a "thing," a "person," a "deity," a noun....and most certainly is not some kind of Big Guy in the Sky.

Instead, God is contemplated as a [natural] PROCESS....an interactive (with us) process, which is always ongoing.

A verb.

The purpose of this exercise is to stretch comprehension, and depth of thinking, in previously unexpected ways.

It also can be fun, because most people don't paradigm shift very much throughout their lives, and this practical exercise can nudge in that direction.

I can get behind God as a process rather than a being. That line of thinking also belongs in Medicine. The placebo effect is a spiritual process, so why not call it what it is instead of straining credulity with materialist dogma? Patients should be taught to believe themselves to wellness because that’s a real thing. “Thy faith has made thee whole” is a valid (but not lucrative) practice.

God is like indecency. I know it when I see it.

Makes no difference to me...

I deny my own existence on the grounds of diminished responsibility. Now if you don't mind, the horse-racing is on the television, and my husband has ordered a takeaway.

God Wrote:
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> I deny my own existence on the grounds of
> diminished responsibility. Now if you don't mind,
> the horse-racing is on the television, and my
> husband has ordered a takeaway.


Aha! It seems that ghawd is hanging out in England these days!

Of course. That's where they built Jerusalem--in England's green and pleasant land!

Not so's I could tell.

When it comes to the Judeo-Christian god, it’s a big NO from me. He’s not only a fictitious character, he’s an evil fictitious character.

Is there someone or something out there that might fit some definition of “god”? Maybe, but if there is, he/she/it is not represented by any religion I’ve ever encountered.

'God' exists but it is not some white dude with a physical body.

I feel that way too, CrispingPin. If there is something out there, I’m confident that it isn’t the god of the Bible (Koran, etc.)

Yes and her name is Mother Nature.

does she get mad if you serve her margarine?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijVijP-CDVI

"Yes I believe in god, if by the word, 'god' you mean the embodiment of the immutable laws that govern nature." Carl Sagan
I'm with Carl
And Albert
And Neil
And especially Michio
https://youtu.be/KoGYObRNn6A



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...breaking news...

If there is a god it would be nice for him/her/it to let us know. And please, god, no more prophets!

Maybe a text message or an attachment to an email?

hgc2 Wrote:
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> If there is a god it would be nice for him/her/it
> to let us know. And please, god, no more
> prophets!
God (God Particle, minus the particle, since it is a universal field) did let us know it existed 7yrs ago.

what does it think about margarinem

dogbloggernli Wrote:
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> what does it think about margarinem
It probably thinks you are illiterate, based upon your inability to spell or articulate a coherent sentence.

If by Gawhd, you mean the white bearded, patriarchal christian gawhd, then no.

There are probably higher intelligent beings that exist far more advanced than humans. Space is so vast that it's possible we'll never meet. Like them, we share in the fact that we are just one giant asteroid away from extermination. Some have hit Jupiter creating a space bigger than Earth.

In the next billion years Earth will be a long forgotten dead planet. That might one day reboot and just when the life forms get up to human intelligence level the sun will burn out.

As far as the God that is described by the world religions I'd say it's as good as a fairy tale.As described that God is a pipe dream. With compelling evidence I'd be happy to change my mind.

Then I would ask where the hell has this God been for the millions of people that needed some real spiritual guidance, healing, etc?

You can hope for it to be true if it helps you in your life and quest for happiness and meaning. I won't be playing the game.

I don't like poles, unless there are dancers, or flags or sails flying...

What difference does it make?
If it means I win a prize, I'll decide.

I ask the same question...
Dog or No Dog? Yes. OGD!