Date: August 10, 2019 04:13PM
I am a Never-Mo living in the Morridor. I come here to deal with some of the craziness of living here. I find that people here normally have a better understanding of what the Mormons think and do than anywhere else. It helps me to understand and deal with some of the ridiculous things I deal with day to day. Sometimes it's more than others, sometimes I can go weeks without trying to figure out the weirdness that goes on around me.
I think some come here because they want to vent their frustration and anger (and I think that may be some of the reason I come here too) at the things that go in with the Mormons.
Others, I get the distinct feeling that they actually still LOVE the Mormon church and theology. With some of the things that go on with the church and the changes that occur or the things that others have done to them, they cannot support the way the Mormon church actually is. However, these people seem to follow all the Mormon conferences, meetings, policies and everything else Mormon. They know more about Mormon history and news than anyone I know of. They love the Mormon church still, but they don't LOVE TSCC...if that makes sense.
This is just to provide background on why I'm here and what I've seen predicatory to why I am making this thread out of the blue.
I am from the South. I grew up there, and I grew up during the period of integration. I have seen racism and it's nasty face. I learned at an early age we need to stand up against discrimination and it's ugly face. I know discrimination when I see it.
I recently read a VERY SHOCKING THREAD here. It was BLATANTLY anti-Semitic. IT was seriously disgusting and anyone who has ever seen the hidden discrimination against others could see it very clearly. I wanted to point this out because the VICTIM of the thread was the one punished, NOT those who were acting like a bunch of KKK bigots (though I truly believe most of them did not realize it).
I don't care about many of the threads where people talk against Christianity (and I actually understand the anger and how many are upset with it. I think it makes sense. I am an Evangelical, but I think many of those who are are angry, or are atheists, or simply dislike Christians are fully right to have their views). The Threads on circumcision did not bother me at all. I could see how some could take offense, but I wouldn't utilize it as offensive.
In fact, I normally don't see things that people would call offensive as being offensive here, even when they call evangelicals pretty bad stuff at times. The reason is that this is a board for recovery and healing. People need to be able to speak their minds and sound off on their thoughts. Expression is sometimes one of the best routes to heal, and the only way to do that is to express how hurt one is and how it has made them truly feel rather than hiding those feelings. I can understand that.
What I felt it went off the rocker is this...
White privilege. (what you say...how is that related. It's because sometimes those who are being prejudice don't realize it because it is something, they themselves, as part of the majority, do not experience. However, it can be blatantly obvious to those who do NOT experience that privilege).
Someone made a thread SPECIFICALLY to call someone out. In this thread that individual SPECIFICALLY called out anti-Semitism and then proceeded to attack someone who alleges to be Jewish. They then proceed to insult that person, mostly centered around the idea of Judaism, being Jewish, and the stereotype that is presented by Anti-semitics of Jews easily taking offense.
It then became a pile on to that particular and specific individual that was named as being a Jew.
Here's a clue for you...when people start saying they aren't being anti-Semitic...normally it's a big red flag that they actually ARE being anti-Semitic.
That still wasn't too bad...and wouldn't be why I'd make this thread. I WAS shocked when the one that was being attacked, the one that the anti-Semitism was focused on...the victim and target of the attack thread...was the one BANNED. If anyone was to be banned, IT SHOULD Have been those who were doing the anti-Semitism.
I only bring this up because I was taught when I was younger that we should stand UP to blatant evil when it rears it's head. There's MUCH I have no problem with and I can understand. If people want to say Evangelicals are the devil...I might express my own faith, but I ALSO understand that those statements may be well warranted. It's not the place for me to aggravate untended wounds...and people NEED to have those things out to heal.
However, banning a victim of abuse in a thread made specifically to ABUSE that victim, and specifically a thread made to point out someone is a Jew and that the Jews should not take offense to statements that could be seen to be at least a tiny bit anti-Jewish (not that I saw the original threads as such, but I am not going to further the point)...I'm not sure anyone else can see how that is NOT wrong.
I am from the South. I am an evangelical. We have some of the WORST records in regards to being racist, discriminatory, and prejudice. If I can see how blatant the anti-Semitism was in that thread...I have a HARD time seeing how no one else did.
This board, from what I recall is RFM and normally is used as such...right. It's why I COME here normally. I am SOOOO exasperated by Mormons and what is going on around me at times (and many days I feel I should try to find another job outside the Morridor...but it's HARD being a single mom and trying to afford housing and other things and right now this is a place I can afford it...until I find a better place) that I come here.
I hope this anti-Semitism is NOT showing what the board is becoming, because up until now I have used it to help with Mormonism and my difficulties with it. Anti-Semitism IS WRONG...and though many may persecute me now as well for pointing out the blatant discrimination that happened here in hopes that it can be repaired and never happen again (it would be BAD for RFM to become known as an White Power place...and yes, I AM a minority as well...so discrimination against me may ALSO becoming as I am aware of, but it is ALSO why I could see the discrimination and be disgusted by the results of it) I would hope that this NEVER occurs again or is allowed to occur on this board again.
Being a minority should not be and never be a get out of jail free card...and I agree with that. However, I think being a little more sensitive to what discrimination is, especially against certain groups of minorities, should probably be more mindful. Isn't that PART of the reason some where disgusted with Mormonism in the first place? Blatant discrimination. Blatant Racism. Even if they have changed some things, it's still very much part of the society here in the Morridor. They are racist in their very actions even if many do not realize that they are being so.
It's something I experience at least once a week in the Morridor from Mormons who probably don't even REALIZE they are being racist. It's the LAST thing I actually would want to experience on a board where I would hope is made to deal with getting away from the Mormons and their ideas, rather than bringing it right here to be re-experienced in our discussions here.
Thank you and sorry for pointing this out. Hopefully I am not also kicked out (though than I guess the board could start being proud they kicked out two minorities within a short time of each other....more white power for all the rest of you I guess). I have said what I have to say and will not engage in the thread again so it can die if everyone let's it.
I just want this to be a RFM board where we can freely discuss things without the same fear that Mormons bring out to us, and where those who are trying to recover from Mormonism (whether it was because they are ex-Mormons, Mormons trying to deal with life still, or those of us who are Never-Mo's but living among Mormons and trying to weave our way to a normal life somehow) can actually do so.