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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 02:58PM

As for the fictional "Army Of Helaman," this is all you will ever see --

For a long time, modern scholars believed that the Amazons were little more than a figment of ancient imaginations.

These were the fierce warrior women of Ancient Greek lore who supposedly sparred with Hercules, lived in lesbian matriarchies and hacked off their breasts so they could better fire their arrows. Homer immortalized them in “The Iliad.” Eons later, they played a central role in the Wonder Woman comics.

Some historians argued that they were probably a propaganda tool created to keep Athenian women in line. Another theory suggested that they may have been beardless men mistaken for women by the Greeks.

But a growing body of archaeological evidence shows that legends about the horseback-riding, bow-wielding female fighters were almost certainly rooted in reality. Myths about the Amazons’ homosexuality and self-mutilation are still dubious at best, but new research appears to confirm that there really were groups of nomadic women who trained, hunted and battled alongside their male counterparts on the Eurasian steppe.

In a landmark discovery revealed this month, archaeologists unearthed the remains of four female warriors buried with a cache of arrowheads, spears and horseback-riding equipment in a tomb in western Russia — right where Ancient Greek stories placed the Amazons.

The team from the Institute of Archaeology at the Russian Academy of Sciences identified the women as Scythian nomads who were interred at a burial site some 2,500 years ago near the present-day community of Devitsa. The women ranged in age from early teens to late 40s, according to the archaeologists. And the eldest of the women was found wearing a golden ceremonial headdress, a calathus, engraved with floral ornaments — an indication of stature.

The discovery presents some of the most detailed evidence to date that female warriors weren’t just the stuff of ancient fiction, according to Adrienne Mayor, author of “The Amazons: Lives and Legends of Warrior Women Across the Ancient World.”

“For a while, people have assumed that myths about the Amazons that the Greeks told were just fantasy,” said Mayor, who was not involved in the excavation. “Now we have proof that those women did exist and that the lives of those women warriors really did influence the Ancient Greek ideas and visions of what they said about the Amazons.”

Earlier excavations have turned up similar evidence, though not always so well preserved. In 2017, Armenian researchers discovered the remains of a woman in her 20s who they said resembled Amazon myths. They found that she died from battle injuries. Their report in the International Journal of Osteoarchaeology noted that she had an arrowhead buried in her leg and that her bone and muscle structure indicated she rode horses.

The new discovery in Russia marked the first time multiple generations of Scythian women were found buried together, according to the researchers. The youngest of the bodies may have belonged to a girl roughly 12 or 13 years old. Two others were women in their 20s, according to the researchers, and the fourth was between 45 and 50.

Mayor said the findings suggested that young girls were trained early on, just like boys, to ride horses and use bows and arrows.

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Posted by: anon 4 this joke ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:11PM

Woo-hoo! Talk about Amazon Prime!

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 01:36AM

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 03:38AM

Darn, it’s not a dating website.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: January 04, 2020 03:54PM

Just yesterday in the NYTimes, there was an article about "sworn virgins" in Albania, which neighbors Greece. It is a tradition that is dying out, there are only 40 left, and they are all elderly.

It was apparently a formal societal accommodation to allow a family or clan that had lost all of its males, to allow a woman to act as a man. If she literally swore off sex, marriage and children, she could wear men's clothing, own property, avenge family deaths, the whole nine yards. She could act as a male, and more importantly, was accepted as a male by the very traditional Albanian society.

Besides being a fascinating cultural adaptation in a society where males often got killed off in war or even intratribal vendettas, I wonder if it could be a long cultural afterclap of an Amazon tradition in the same area?

We have other cultural afterclaps from that same general region that go back at least as far, like the convention of 360° circles, and monotheism.

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Posted by: bona dea ( )
Date: January 05, 2020 07:13AM

I read about the discovery of ancient women warriors in Russia years ago. This isn't exactly new although this particular discovery may be. The existence of some historical background for the Amazon myth has been assumed for decades.

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Posted by: Phazer ( )
Date: January 06, 2020 10:40PM

Old bones, arrowheads and horse gear. Not that convincing and that the bones are 2500 years.

It's anyone's guess. just like what exactly did the dinosaurs look like, skin, warm or cold blood, or whatever on 245M to 66M years.

It's just a guest. Fun to talk about.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: January 06, 2020 11:06PM

ziller wood love to sit on they lap ~

all day ~

in a bar ~

drinking whiskey ~

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Posted by: macaRomney ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 10:19AM

The lesbian matriarchy theory is intriguing. How did they repopulate? Who did the woman's work, while they were out pillaging? ... fascinating....

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 01:55PM

They only needed one guy for stud duty. How do you get that job? Besides being Brigham Young.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 10:09PM

Think you'd be up for it?

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 10:16PM

30 years ago, sure. Not so much now. It would be just my luck to be taken as a sex slave tomorrow.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: January 07, 2020 10:29PM

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