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Posted by: RPackham ( )
Date: October 11, 2020 11:16AM

question for admins

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: October 11, 2020 03:41PM

Cancelled due to being none of my business, I belatedly realized.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2020 05:41PM by Nightingale.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: October 11, 2020 04:42PM


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Posted by: Gaffer ( )
Date: October 13, 2020 03:29PM

Oh, I don't know....Montana to Rice, maybe.....?

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 02:10AM

Oh Gaffer, I retired :) And what a season it is! We just can't seem to catch a break. But no matter what, win or suck, we are the Faithful :)!

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Posted by: nli ( )
Date: October 13, 2020 03:52PM

So, how does one contact the admins? There should be a way, indicated on the main forum page.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 13, 2020 05:44PM

nli Wrote:
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> So, how does one contact the admins? There should
> be a way, indicated on the main forum page.

There are two ways to contact Admin(s):

1) Submit a "Report" (if you are logged in, "Report" is the next to last choice on the "Options" line at the bottom of your screen). This is the preferred way for just about everything. Reports are seen by all Admins.

2) If something is serious and/or is extremely personal, you can email Concrete Zipper. His email address is included, towards the bottom of his post, in his announcement of a Short Story contest at the top of the page which shows the current threads. (The Short Story contest itself has now been completed.)



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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 10:43AM

I wanna know where (how) the name Concrete Zipper was selected, along with a few others including LW & others.

mine is short for Guy Noir Private Eye, the alter-ego of Garrison Keilor.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 10:48AM

My original moniker of Jonny the Smoke came from a 5 year old boy in our neighborhood many years ago. He walked in the house one day and said "hi Jonny the Smoke" out of the blue, so used that.

Current moniker of Roy G Biv is from ROYGBIV...first letter of each color in the light spectrum...red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. I learned that in college science while studying to be an engineer at BYU.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 01:55PM

GNPE Wrote:
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> I wanna know where (how) the name Concrete Zipper
> was selected,

If I may be so bold, I'll answer on his behalf. There's a highway out of Boston with movable berms ("Jersey barriers") connected by metal hinges. Before each rush hour, a special truck lifts these concrete barriers and moves them in or out of a travel lane as needed, creating or closing an additional HOV lane, called the "zipper lane," to accommodate increased traffic.

I assume that CZ resided in the Boston area at one point, and created his moniker from that.

Now, "Lot's Wife?" I'll let her answer for herself.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 02:01PM

The Concrete Zipper system is not limited to Boston. It's been in use for a couple of centuries in many parts of the world and the US.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 03:13PM

Feel free to correct me (on this matter) LZ. Or CW. ZW? ZC?

Not WC, I hope!

Anyhoo, you have not braved my question about your moniker. Waiting with bated breath.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 03:41PM

Ah yes. I had forgotten CZ's reference to MA.

I didn't answer about Lot's Wife because I've explained it a couple of times in the past. I am a big fan of the OT as literature: a collection of sometimes incompatible myths described in laconic passages admitting all sorts of interesting interpretations. One of my favorites is Sarah, who was so confident that she laughed at God as well as laughing with him.

Another is Lot's Wife, ordered by God not to look back. But "back" is where her children were born, the parks in which they played, the family home and friends. What, I ask, is more human, more emotionally honest, than to look back with love and sadness at one's home? Lot's Wife thus represents to me the best in us, a willingness to remember life in all its complexity and to honor the good even while eschewing the bad, and a refusal above all to let arbitrary commandments overrule emotional integrity.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 03:56PM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> I am a big fan of the OT as literature: a collection
> of sometimes incompatible myths described in
> laconic passages admitting all sorts of
> interesting interpretations. One of my favorites
> is Sarah, who was so confident that she laughed at
> God as well as laughing with him.
>
> Another is Lot's Wife, ordered by God not to look
> back. But "back" is where her children were born,
> the parks in which they played, the family home
> and friends. What, I ask, is more human, more
> emotionally honest, than to look back with love
> and sadness at one's home? Lot's Wife thus
> represents to me the best in us, a willingness to
> remember life in all its complexity and to honor
> the good even while eschewing the bad, and a
> refusal above all to let arbitrary commandments
> overrule emotional integrity.

Really good analysis, LW!

You would be a great asset in [Jewish] university-level classes (especially if your female classmates were in training to be rabbis or serious academics).

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 04:00PM

You know, I hadn't thought of that but you are right--not necessarily about me as a teacher but about the convergence of my thought processes and those of most of modern Judaism, for which metaphor and allegory are far more important than literalism. "Myth" in the good sense of the word.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 04:17PM


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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 04:31PM

I agree.

My current Jewish study is the now classic "Tomer Devorah" ["Palm Tree of Devorah"], written by Rabbi Moshe Cordovero in 1588, which became--in many ways--one of the seminal works of the Jewish newly "modern" era (an era which continues into our contemporary times today).

One of the things I discovered, but did not expect, from this book was the metaphorical and allegorical analysis throughout, which (in some ways) recast what was the largely literalistic, previous, understanding of [the OT] regarding "how the world works."

I think you probably would have liked to be in Tsfat (a town in northern Israel, today acknowledged worldwide for its incredible intellectual past) in the late 1500s, when Tsfat was definitely "the" happening place to be.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 05:28PM

I probably would have.

More generally that was a good time for People of the Book in the Ottoman Empire. Islam was strong and confident, with relative freedom of speech and discourse within its boundaries and a worldwide trade network. It was the cross-pollination of Judaism, Islam, and the classical learning that Islam in particular had preserved that enabled Spain to rise to the rank of world power.

I'm not sure whether I'd have enjoyed living in Istanbul, Palestine, or Cordoba more, but that was an amazing time--assuming, of course and unreasonably, that I was one of the fortunate few who lived past infancy and had the money to study.



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Posted by: nli ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 01:37PM

Tevai Wrote:
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> nli Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, how does one contact the admins? There
> should
> > be a way, indicated on the main forum page.
>
> There are two ways to contact Admin(s):
>
> 1) Submit a "Report" (if you are logged in,
> "Report" is the next to last choice on the
> "Options" line at the bottom of your screen).
> This is the preferred way for just about
> everything. Reports are seen by all Admins.
>
> 2) If something is serious and/or is extremely
> personal, you can email Concrete Zipper. His
> email address is included, towards the bottom of
> his post, in his announcement of a Short Story
> contest at the top of the page which shows the
> current threads. (The Short Story contest itself
> has now been completed.)

That's very easy for you to say, but how would anybody figure that out? Especially a newcomer. Why can't you put an item on the top "Go to" menu bar called "Admin contact"?

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 02:20PM

Good point.

Discussion among Admins (not on the public board) is the next step.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2020 03:57PM by Tevai.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 08:25PM

I am an elder in the mormony church. And I am a dog, a very mature, AARP kind of dog.

So I am only guilty of everything else except for a complicated username.

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Posted by: esias ( )
Date: October 15, 2020 02:44PM

I can exclusively reveal the admin's postal address:


Third cubical along
Men's john
Salt Lake Visitors Centre
Knock three times
Ask for a dude called Zippy
(in the event of his absence you will be met by Sue)


Bribes, donations and all major credit cars accepted: this month's special offer: signed photographs (price on application), VIP membership ($99.99 for family of 4, or Mormon family of 16), and certified dispensations for board politics or profanity

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