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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 12:02PM

"Verily I say unto you, who have assembled2 together that you may learn my will, concerning the redemption of mine afflicted people; behold I say unto you, were it not for the transgression of my people speaking concerning the church and not individuals,3 they might have been redeemed even now; but behold, they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I require at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil and do not impart of their substance as becometh saints; to the poor and afflicted among them and are not united, according to the union required by the law of the celestial kingdom4 and Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the Celestial kingdom otherwise, I cannot receive her unto my-self and my people must needs be chastened, until they learn obedience if it must needs be by the things5 which they suffer.6 I speak not concerning those who are appointed to lead my people who are the first elders of my church7 for they are not all under this condemnation, but I speak concerning the church abroad, there are many who will say where is their god, Behold, he will deliver in time of trouble, otherwise we will not go up unto Zion, and will keep our monies.8"
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-22-june-1834-dc-105/1

"The requirement for entry into the celestial kingdom is not that we have actually practiced the entire celestial law while upon this earth, but that we have shown God that we are willing and able to do so."
https://emp.byui.edu/satterfieldb/quotes/Millennium/Celestial%20Law.html

As long as you are willing and able you don't actually need to help the poor and be united in obeying the law of consecration. Brigham Young and Dallin Oaks fixed up Mormonism to be less socialistic.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 01:40PM

They gave up on building Zion and pinned their hopes on the CK.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 05:31PM

Exactly. They turned in Brigham from a neo-Christian Primitivist group with communal proclivities to....wait for it.

"...otherwise we will not go up unto Zion, and will keep our monies."

They aren't in Zion and they have billions. And they appeal to Christian Fundamentalists who put the parable of The Talents ahead of ever other teaching of Jesus. Capitalism's lie of meritocracy in their oligarchy is in the heart of their coven of prophets.

The men who worship with them like Oaks will "shown God that we are willing and able to" live their so-called higher Celestial Law(s) and but not be able to nor have any desires in that direction. They will not give all they have to the poor and be special witnesses for Jesus. And they will throw out useless platitudes semiannually to succor their real poor - those Mormons poor in spirit who need words to attempt to "choose the right" in a vane attempt to show these oligarchs that they are "are willing and able."

Fie on Oaks and his ilk. Smith was a swindler and a crook that bred witnesses for a Jesus of Office Space and not sacred space.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2020 05:31PM by Elder Berry.

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Posted by: Anziano Young ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 07:36PM

If we are "willing and able to [live the law of the Celestial Kingdom]" without actually having to prove it, wouldn't God know that without sending us here to BS our way through life? Isn't he omniscient and omnipotent?

Oh right--not the Mormon God. He's "bound" by laws and whatnot. He probably needs a starship too.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 07:43PM

He just wants to go for a ride with Grace Slick.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 14, 2020 07:44PM

Don't Forget the Space Force

https://www.spaceforce.mil/

each branch of the U.S. military has a tightly-defined mission, What About the Space Force?

do they have any posts or forts? Do members undergo mission-oriented, special training?

I.Smell.A.Rat.

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