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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 12:22PM

...but don't ever expect to see a black member of The Council Of The Twelve...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/pope-francis-cardinal-gregory.html

Wilton Gregory, the archbishop of Washington, who led the Roman Catholic Church’s response to the sexual abuse crisis in the early 2000s, was among 13 new cardinals named on Sunday.

The elevation of Archbishop Gregory, the first American named as a cardinal since 2016, comes as demonstrations for racial justice and debates over how to address the legacy of slavery and racism have dramatically shifted the conversation about race in the United States. In recent months, Archbishop Gregory has urged the church’s leaders to improve race relations, recalling his time as an auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of Chicago, and how important it was for young Black Catholics to see a bishop who looked like them.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Black_people_in_church_leadership

Black people in church leadership

No member of the two highest governing bodies, the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, has ever been black. There have been several black members of the Quorums of the Seventy;[59] and, as of 2013, Brazilian Helvécio Martins (a member of the Second Quorum of the Seventy from 1990 to 1995), Joseph W. Sitati (from Kenya) and Edward Dube (from Zimbabwe), both members of the First Quorum of the Seventy, have served as general authorities. Other black members have served as area seventies, particularly in the Third Quorum of the Seventy, which includes the church's Africa Southeast, Africa West, Europe, and Europe East areas.[60][61] There has never been a black member of the general presidencies of the Relief Society, Young Women, Primary, Young Men, or Sunday School. The first African member of the Relief Society general board[62] was chosen in 2003, and she shared her testimony at the general meeting of the Relief Society in September 2003.[63] In February 2014, Dorah Mkhabela, a black South African, was made a member of the Young Women General Board. She became the first black woman to give a prayer at the Women's Meetings of General Conference in September 2014.[64]

Mauss commented "As far as leadership is concerned, the role of the various minorities in Mormonism as a whole is not yet very great, but it is growing, and it is crucial in parts of the world outside the U.S."[15] Approximately 5% of church members have African ancestry (mostly in congregations in Africa, South America, and the Caribbean).

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 01:10PM

I want to see the pope create a blue jay.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 01:43PM

I worry that Il Papa is stuck in an abusive relationship.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 01:59PM

I've been wondering what is going to happen in Nigeria. LDS Inc has done very well there, over 50 stakes if I recall correctly, plus some branches/districts. It was on par with Canada, which has been infected with Mormons for well over a century.
Mormonism in Nigeria is growing blazingly fast.

I think it highly likely that eventually, and probably sooner rather than later, there will be a West African GA.

That said, in recent news stories, it looks like Nigeria is coming seriously close to total collapse. As a percentage of the total population, LDS membership isn't much, but still, there must be somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000 or more active LDS to support that many stakes. How will SLC help those people if Nigeria totally unravels?

I can't even hope LDS Inc will "do the right thing", because I haven't a clue what the right thing would be. We have our own problems with COVID, but we don't have our own military firing point blank and repeatedly at protesters. Their situation is terrifying.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 02:03PM

> We have our own problems with
> COVID, but we don't have our own military firing
> point blank and repeatedly at protesters.

The key word in that sentence is "repeatedly."

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 02:29PM

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> How will SLC help those people if Nigeria totally unravels?

That's simple!

by promising them that Everything will get better if they transfer any wealth they have (tooth fillings included) to SLC / COB!



we know this strategy works, don't we?

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 03:49PM

>>and how important it was for young Black Catholics to see a bishop who looked like them.

And yet Catholic women apparently don't need to see priests, bishops, etc. who look like them.

It's a step in the right direction, though. And it does beg the question of what the Mormon church will be doing in Africa, since there has been so much effort to expand the church there.

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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 08:57PM

Slight correction. He didn't appoint the First Black Cardinal. He appointed the First Black Cardinal in America. Other Popes have appointed Black Cardinals.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 09:01PM

I thought Kayne West was the first ...


Cardinal Kayne. Kind of magical!

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 10:13PM


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Date: October 25, 2020 10:13PM


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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 10:35PM


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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: October 25, 2020 11:05PM

Then the correct statement would have been; Appointed the first African American, American Cardinal.

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