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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 05:14PM

Yep...as some wondered in the other thread...

https://www.ksl.com/article/50175042/idaho-judge-puts-case-on-hold-after-evaluation-finds-lori-daybell-not-competent

Will Chad try to use this tactic, too?

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Posted by: cinda ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 05:36PM

She to was not competent to be a mother in the first place.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: June 03, 2021 02:01PM

cinda Wrote:
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> She to was not competent to be a mother in the
> first place.

COMPETENCY has nothing to do with procreation. All tha tis needed is an impregnated egg

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 05:42PM

It’s the “I’m a Mormon” defense.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 07:25PM

It's what I predicted. See my recent posts in a related thread.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: May 29, 2021 08:03PM

You are a better prophet than Rusty. Want 10% of my income?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 05:56PM

I hope she gets the help she needs!





so she can stand trial . . .

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 05:58PM

They should just give her a chair.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:00PM

Maybe she can't stand chairs?

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:24PM

How would she know? She's incompetent.

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Posted by: JoeSmithis#1 ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:18PM

Cute girls and women should never be charged with crimes. Go after the guy but let this babe go.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:26PM

So murder is fine as long as you're hot? Don't tell my wife!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:32PM

Cuz you're hot and she'll live in fear?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 06:43PM

Roy wears Axe, so yes he is hot.

And it’s summer!

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 08:14PM

I hope Idaho law peovides for institutional confinement until she's fit for trial.

I hope she never walks free.

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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: May 27, 2021 08:38PM

I want to know how she was competent to choose Means as an attorney for the new charges when she is incompetent to listen to the charges. Get to pick and choose when you are competent? Maybe it is a moron thing.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 12:14AM

Apparently thinking you will become a god is not considered delusional, but thinking you already are a god is. At least now we know where to draw the line.

I know several people who are able to function in the world, but if they ever ended up in a mental institution, they’d have a hell of a time trying to get released.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 02:10AM

So long as they lock her up and throw away the key, I really don't care if it's a secure psychiatric institution as opposed to a jail.

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Posted by: a new name ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 04:26PM

Good News, Idaho does not have a "Not Guilty by reason of insanity" law on its books (one of 5 states that do not). The ruling now is that she will be investigated to see if she is competent to understand the charges against her and to participate in her defense. If it is found she is not, then she will be required by court order to undergo treatment (drugs) until she is competent to stand trial. She never gets out of the trail. She either spends the rest of her life in a mental facility, or gets better and then goes to trial.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 04:55PM

Yes, whether she understands the charges and can participate in her defense is the usual standard.

On a different point I once happened to meet a professor who taught criminal law. We discussed this topic, and he told me that life in a mental facility is substantially worse than life in prison. He said, with a visible shiver, that no defense lawyer would ever want his client to end up there.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 05:30PM

> He said, with a visible shiver,
> that no defense lawyer would
> ever want his client to end up
> there.


I for one find it hard to believe that every criminal defense attorney cares that deeply about his or HER clients; I suspect that the thing they'd all share in common is getting paid before the trial date.

I wonder if "A bonus if I'm found Not Guilty" is ever negotiated into the deal?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 05:34PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I for one find it hard to believe that every
> criminal defense attorney cares that deeply about
> his or HER clients; I suspect that the thing
> they'd all share in common is getting paid before
> the trial date.

I'm sure you are right. A criminal law professor probably feels more deeply about justice than the average defense attorney.


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> I wonder if "A bonus if I'm found Not Guilty" is
> ever negotiated into the deal?

Such a bonus is always included in the deal since the attorney won't get much future business if his or HER past and current clients all end up manufacturing license plates.

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Posted by: Phazer ( )
Date: May 28, 2021 06:40PM

She must be good in the sack.
The nut cases usually are. Lots of fun but too loony to keep for too long before moving on to more stable personalities.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 01:46PM

You're offending the Real 'nut cases' by associating Lori V with them...


just sayin'

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: May 29, 2021 08:13PM

She is too incompetent to be alive.

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Posted by: loislane ( )
Date: May 30, 2021 07:32AM

I came across on YouTube a very interesting interview of Zac Cox by reporter Jason Lum.

Zac Cox is Lori's nephew, the son of her brother Adam Cox, the DJ.

Zac lived with Lori and Charles, and then with his grandparents, Janice and Barry, when Lori was becoming more and more obsessed with Chad and his end-of-the world theories. He tells what it was like living with Lori, about Lori's change in personality, and what Charles suffered before his death. The whole family was against him. Zac was close to Tylee and JJ during this time.

I wish I had a link, but just google Zac Cox, interview, YouTube and you should find it. Zac gives a good account of Lori's family, and the way they interacted with each other.

It is Zac's view that Lori was mentally competent then and she is mentally competent now.

God save us from all end-of-the-worlders, because they will not have any scruples about ending your world.

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Posted by: auntsukey ( )
Date: May 30, 2021 10:27AM


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Posted by: valkyriequeen ( )
Date: May 30, 2021 10:21AM

If she needs a chair, why not use the electric chair?

After all, if she is indeed a goddess, it won't hurt her a bit.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 01:34PM

Idaho is not going to appeal the incompetency finding.

I just had a thought. What if Mo prosecutors would rather not these Mormon nutcases testifying in court about their end of world beliefs?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2021 01:38PM by Brother Of Jerry.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 02:27PM

I agree. The ID law on this is strange.

First, there is no insanity defense. The state legislature removed that from the books decades ago. But that's not the end of the story. The judge can decide that a defendant is mentally incapable of forming the intent to commit the crime and on that basis find that person innocent--which is close to a normal insanity defense.

Regarding competency to stand trial, the standard is pretty common: does the defendant understand the basics of the legal system, does she understand the charges, and can she participate in her own defense? That's a very low standard. Charles Manson was sane enough, as were the Laffertys and Son of Sam.

So either ID expects an unusually high level of competence as a precondition for trial or Vallow is drooling mad. I haven't seen that. Usually, awareness of the need to hide the bodies and to run away from law enforcement is enough to show competence.

Curious.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 03:13PM

The mormons in the Idaho justice system don’t want Pres. Hinckley called as a witness!!!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 03:22PM

Perhaps, Jesus. But I'd think the national media might suss that out, which would be embarrassing.

I just don't know how the courts have interpreted the statutory rule--and I'm surprised you haven't researched that for us!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 08, 2021 03:32PM

In Idaho, one assumes that statutes are interpreted by the Holy Ghost.

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