I mean if something is so true why do people have to keep reminding themselves and others that it is true, over and over again. The force of gravity is true, the sky is blue at noon on a clear day is true, that some birds can fly is true, but you don't hear people incessantly droning on about time and time again. The way many people seem to regularly proclaim various religious "truths" actually hurts their arguments.
Switching subjects, when was a child and learned that Jesus Christ's body was found missing after the stone was rolled back, I was like Duh! Somebody took it. The stone still being in place and after much effort by many people it was rolled out of the way, whereby Jesus Christ's body was gone would be a little more compelling, but would still remain a sketchy claim to the supernatural.
Unusual claims requires unusual evidence, is very useful statement.
Repetition works well to ingrain memes like that into the brain. If you hear and parrot that Jesus lives and JS is a prophet all the time, the neuron pathway in the brain for that meme becomes strong. It becomes the "go to" thought. Facts have little to do with it.
Everyone has heard that if you repeat something enough, people believe it. We've also heard that the more outrageous the claim, the more people will believe it. It's no coincidence this kind of thinking thrives in religion, politics, conspiracy types, etc. where scientific questioning is not encouraged.
I had that thought about the stone at the tomb too. If people rolled it to stick him in there and people rolled it away, it wasn't that big of a deterrent. The myth story is outrageous anyway, so the stone part fits right in!
The neurons of a similar type band together to form neuron chains which band together to form ganglion which band together to form ganglionic chains which band together to form a response repertory which then totally dominates the thought and reasoning process. Cut to the chase The more I hammer it the more it is implanted in your mind and the less power you have to overide it Jack Mo MO we are in agreement
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Once the neuron pathway is well established, it is easy for thoughts to flow down that road and correlate. It's kind of like taking the freeway which is easy and fast instead of a back road. To consider new points of view and get new ideas, you might have to get those lesser used roads involved. This happens by exposing yourself to new information.
I was at a mormon family function over the weekend, and there were prayers over the meals, a church function opening and closing prayer, a 'dedicate the grave' prayer and a 'bless these fine potatoes' prayer... (oh, and they were soooo good! And so was the jello!)
All but one ended with a mumbled, generic "in Jesus' name, amen". They put the capital P in perfunctory. I don't think they were at all thinking about Jesus and his intercession on their behalf, that their sins might be washed away in his atoning blood.
It isn't just the mormons, but all Christianity can't seem to find much to talk about, they drone on and on all about the same subject explaining the same 'give your life to jesus' there's not much else to say, but what's even worse is how the catholics do it.
'Holy Mary mother of Gawd bless us now and at the time of our death ' 'Holy Mary mother of Gawd bless us now and at the time of our death ' 'Holy Mary mother of Gawd bless us now and at the time of our death ' 'Holy Mary mother of Gawd bless us now and at the time of our death ' 'Holy Mary mother of Gawd bless us now and at the time of our death '
There is empirical evidence that the man known as Jesus of Nazareth actually lived. He violated Roman law and was executed. That is where the hard evidence stops. There is no verifiable evidence of any resurrection. It is all based on legend and annals. Therefore I find it somewhat doubtful that Joe Jr saw or talked to anybody as he claimed. As for the Book of Mormon? It is a poorly written heavily plagiarized 19th century work of fiction
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Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thedesertrat1 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > He violated Roman law and was executed. > > There is no hard evidence for that. I disagree with you and I wil atempt to secure the evidence. If I cannot then I will apologize
I agree with LW. Roman law in the person of Pilate saw no fault in Jesus but he weakly bowed to the pressure of the Sanhedrin who played on his fear that freeing him might cause trouble. The washing of his hands symbolized that he, and Roman law through him, wanted no responsibility for Jesus' death.
The purpose of repeating your testimony is exactly the same as the repeated declarations of the magnificence of the Emperor's Restored, er, New Clothes. You will be too intimidated to admit the obvious if you think the whole tribe disagrees with you.
I wonder how ChurchCo will handle the next Priesthood lesson on the importance of always having access to properly consecrated oil, after the pandemic has repeatedly demonstrated that consecrated oil is not worth bupkis. ivermectin, OTOH, appears to be worth at least two and a quarter bupkises
By that logic, the BoM must be true, since it said it would be translated by a man named Joseph. And none of the eight witnesses ever recanted, except those that did. And the horse Buraq transported Muhammed to heaven and back.
As for John and the pot of oil - have you ever tried deep fat frying in the nude?
Oh, and I am Groot.
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