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Posted by: anagrammy ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 03:13PM

Here's what puzzles me:

Mormons claim more light because they have modern revelation - a prophet.

Previous prophets' revelations can be obsolete when they were speaking as a prophet and not relevant when they were speaking as a man.

Current prophet makes no revelations and any statements which are not useful are deemed to have been made "speaking as a man and not a prophet."

Current prophet, Harold B. Lee, denies the teachings of the Mormon scriptures on TV (Larry King show), which are now the only approved source of doctrine.

His statements are ignored going forward and now members are quoting him that despite canonized statements to the otherwise, and (according to helpful posters here on RfM), "godhood is no longer being taught from the pulpit."

Have any of you who still go to church recently heard godhood discussed, or have you taught this doctrine in Gospel Doctrine?


Anagrammy

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Posted by: helemon ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 04:45PM

The church doesn't talk much about that.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 04:55PM

regarding exaltation and the kingdoms, etc. is only touched on lightly as it's explained only briefly and no other prophet since expanded on it.

It was Gordon B. Hinckley that responded that the statement by Eliza R. Snow: "As man is God once was, as God is man may be." on Larry King was more of a couplet and we didn't know much about it...
In my reading, someplace, I recall that Eliza recounted that Joseph taught her this doctrine.. and that is where the "couplet" came from.

I happened to agree with him (GBH) at the time, as all of the statements about that subject are contained in the D&C 132.There is no doctrine that explains what all that means, other than those few scriptures, and it's one of those subjects that at the time I was a member, was considered one of the "mysteries" that would be explained later.

That's my understanding from when I was a member and how it was taught. I first learned of this subject from a GA (don't recall which one) back in the early 60's when we lived on BYU campus.

I have a small caveat: when I worked for the LDS Church in the Institute program for CES, the teachers often met in our area and this was a subject was discussed as they seemed to need more instruction in how to teach it and exactly what it all meant.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2011 04:57PM by SusieQ#1.

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Posted by: Ex-CultMember ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 05:08PM

SusieQ#1 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> It was Gordon B. Hinckley that responded that the
> statement by Eliza R. Snow: "As man is God once
> was, as God is man may be." on Larry King was
> more of a couplet and we didn't know much about
> it...
> In my reading, someplace, I recall that Eliza
> recounted that Joseph taught her this doctrine..
> and that is where the "couplet" came from.
>

I think this was actually President Lorenzo Snow who got it from Joseph Smith's King Follett sermon

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 05:28PM

Ex-CultMember Wrote:
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> SusieQ#1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It was Gordon B. Hinckley that responded that
> the
> > statement by Eliza R. Snow: "As man is God
> once
> > was, as God is man may be." on Larry King was
> > more of a couplet and we didn't know much about
> > it...
> > In my reading, someplace, I recall that Eliza
> > recounted that Joseph taught her this
> doctrine..
> > and that is where the "couplet" came from.
> >
>
> I think this was actually President Lorenzo Snow
> who got it from Joseph Smith's King Follett sermon

Yes, I read that also.

REFERENCE: Read "the conclusion".... here in the Ensign 1971


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Posted by: Ex-CultMember ( )
Date: July 16, 2011 05:06PM

anagrammy Wrote:
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> Here's what puzzles me:
>
> Mormons claim more light because they have modern
> revelation - a prophet.
>
> Previous prophets' revelations can be obsolete
> when they were speaking as a prophet and not
> relevant when they were speaking as a man.
>
> Current prophet makes no revelations and any
> statements which are not useful are deemed to have
> been made "speaking as a man and not a prophet."
>
> Current prophet, Harold B. Lee, denies the
> teachings of the Mormon scriptures on TV (Larry
> King show), which are now the only approved source
> of doctrine.
>
> His statements are ignored going forward and now
> members are quoting him that despite canonized
> statements to the otherwise, and (according to
> helpful posters here on RfM), "godhood is no
> longer being taught from the pulpit."
>
> Have any of you who still go to church recently
> heard godhood discussed, or have you taught this
> doctrine in Gospel Doctrine?
>
>
> Anagrammy

I think you meant Gordon B. Hinckley...

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